Hull KR favourites for relegation

[DoubleD 4,796]

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/hull-kr-favourites-to-be-relegated-for-second-time-in-five-years/

Interesting BetFred odds............I might have had Wakey as 2nd favourites but it seems about right. Be interesting if any wildcards upset the odds like Salford did last year

2020 Super League relegation odds

Hull KR – 2/1

Huddersfield Giants – 3/1

Wakefield Trinity – 9/2

Toronto Wolfpack – 5/1

Salford Red Devils – 11/2

Catalans Dragons – 16/1

Castleford Tigers – 33/1

Hull FC 40/1

Leeds Rhinos 40/1

Warrington Wolves 150/1

Wigan Warriors 500/1

St Helens 500/1

[davet 260]

Agree with KR being favorites for the drop, but unsure on 2nd/3rd favorites etc.

Maybe biased, but don't see it being Giants.  SO long as we stay injury free at the end of the pre-season and predominately throughout the season i think we stay clear of trouble.

So will most prob have to put Wakey as 2nd favorites.

[Eddie 1,412]

I’d have HKR safely in mid-table. 

[Oliver Clothesoff 2,805]

Agree that Hull KR, Huddersfield and Wakefield should be first concerned with survival before anything else this year. I’m not hugely convinced on Toronto either. I’m not completely sold on their spine. 

[Mr Plow 785]

HKR have had such a big turnover of players, I’m not surprised they’re favourites to go down. IMO bottom 3 will be KR, Huddersfield and Wakefield 

[HKRBob 106]

It doesn't seem unreasonable based on last season's performance and this season's recruitment that we would be favourites for the drop.

I would say that much will depend on squad depth and injuries. There are 5 or 6 teams that if the injuries bite in the wrong positions, then they could be in for long seasons and possibly relegation. HKR most probably head that list due to the number of untried SL players in their squad depth positions.

I assume that there are more signings to come for the Wolfpack, because their squad (Money Bill aside) doesn't look much stronger than ours. Saying that when the top teams rest their normal 17 for the trip to Canada I assume that it will assist them a bit (reaches for tin hat).

[Marty Funkhouser 264]

26 minutes ago, HKRBob said:

It doesn't seem unreasonable based on last season's performance and this season's recruitment that we would be favourites for the drop.

I would say that much will depend on squad depth and injuries. There are 5 or 6 teams that if the injuries bite in the wrong positions, then they could be in for long seasons and possibly relegation. HKR most probably head that list due to the number of untried SL players in their squad depth positions.

I assume that there are more signings to come for the Wolfpack, because their squad (Money Bill aside) doesn't look much stronger than ours. Saying that when the top teams rest their normal 17 for the trip to Canada I assume that it will assist them a bit (reaches for tin hat).

The odds are about right aside Toronto should be joint favourites with Hull KR.  SBW is the only reason you can get a big 5/1. However it will be a new experience for Sonny playing in the poorest team he has ever turned out for.

If they suffer more than a few injuries, never mind the 12,13 and 14 players missing that happens to some club every single season, they are in danger of been the first SL club to be unable to fulfill a fixture due to lack of players. 

If Toronto do not get a few wins early expect panic measures, fury at the salary cap  and dispensation requests all rounds.

Of the others, the odds are about right, however Castleford will revert to the mean at some point. 2nd poor pre-season now, poor signings aside the winger , Richardson in particular massively overrated. Trueman angling for a move. Shenton and Millington at the end. Powell has got some fantastic performances much greater than the parts but has perhaps overstayed now. 33/1 way too big a price even if its not this season but they will definitely finish very near the bottom in the not too distant future. 

[aj1908 950]

7 minutes ago, Marty Funkhouser said:

The odds are about right aside Toronto should be joint favourites with Hull KR.  SBW is the only reason you can get a big 5/1. However it will be a new experience for Sonny playing in the poorest team he has ever turned out for.

If they suffer more than a few injuries, never mind the 12,13 and 14 players missing that happens to some club every single season, they are in danger of been the first SL club to be unable to fulfill a fixture due to lack of players. 

If Toronto do not get a few wins early expect panic measures, fury at the salary cap  and dispensation requests all rounds.

Of the others, the odds are about right, however Castleford will revert to the mean at some point. 2nd poor pre-season now, poor signings aside the winger , Richardson in particular massively overrated. Trueman angling for a move. Shenton and Millington at the end. Powell has got some fantastic performances much greater than the parts but has perhaps overstayed now. 33/1 way too big a price even if its not this season but they will definitely finish very near the bottom in the not too distant future. 

Put some money on it if you are so confident you'll get great odds

 

If Jackson Hastings can get man of steel sbw should be able to walk super league 

Edited January 2 by aj1908

[Marty Funkhouser 264]

1 minute ago, aj1908 said:

Put some money on it if you are so confident you'll get great odds

5/1 is very decent odds . It will not last long if they don't perform early. They will need to beat a half decent team to not be 0/6 when they first play KR but in any event there should be quite a few chances to earn some money throughout the season. 

Hopefully they come up with a massive performance against Cas and everybody thinks they might be something. The compilers will be slow to change their lines and outlay is covered very early.

[Moscow01 520]

I'm quite surprised Toronto have not gone out and brought in a few more top level players.

 

Yes, SBW has created headlines but he's not the SBW of ten years ago. It's a big ask to expect him suddenly rock up and put in assured performances week in week out.

 

A few of the Toronto players are in for a shock I feel. They've had three seasons now where they've gone into most matches expecting to win, and win well. I can see Toronto losing a lot of their early season games and hitting the panic button and bringing in some big names from the NRL. Their current squad is nowhere near the quality needed for Super League. 

[aj1908 950]

8 minutes ago, Marty Funkhouser said:

5/1 is very decent odds . It will not last long if they don't perform early. They will need to beat a half decent team to not be 0/6 when they first play KR but in any event there should be quite a few chances to earn some money throughout the season. 

Hopefully they come up with a massive performance against Cas and everybody thinks they might be something. The compilers will be slow to change their lines and outlay is covered very early.

Chuck a 50 on it lol 

[HKR AWAY DAYS 190]

3 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said:

Agree that Hull KR, Huddersfield and Wakefield should be first concerned with survival before anything else this year. I’m not hugely convinced on Toronto either. I’m not completely sold on their spine. 

Agreed.

I have Wakefield down (I had money on Labour holding, and that is good enough reason for me). 

I'm not sold on Toronto either; I think the noise surrounding them is giving people ideas.

I think we will finish safely but still around 8/9th. Speed kills and for once we have that in large amounts.

[Lowdesert 2,537]

11 minutes ago, HKR AWAY DAYS said:

Agreed.

I have Wakefield down (I had money on Labour holding, and that is good enough reason for me). 

I'm not sold on Toronto either; I think the noise surrounding them is giving people ideas.

I think we will finish safely but still around 8/9th. Speed kills and for once we have that in large amounts.

The costs of running the ground now (note, I didn’t say down) will add to the pressure.  Relegation would have a bigger impact on HKR than any other club imo.

[Liverpool Rover 426]

I think it will be Rovers, Huddersfield, Wakefield and Toronto down at the bottom for most of the season. Rovers will pick up enough home points to be safe, Wakefield seem to have strengthened enough but I am not sure that Huddersfield have. Toronto will no doubt have kept enough space to sign a couple of more players if needed but if they get off to a poor start then it will be a struggle for them but Huddersfield are my favourites to go down.

[John Boriston 80]

As a Saford fan. I find it quite worrying that we are not in the top three favourites for relegation.

I suppose I'll get used to it over time.

[Dunbar 6,937]

If I were a betting man I would have a few quid on Toronto. 

They have signed one outstanding player and several good players but their squad doesn't have the quality across the board to compete in a league that is a massive step up from last year.

I don't want them to go down but 2nd from bottom will be a great result for them.

[doc 188]

Schofield has Huddersfield as his favourites to drop. So they're safe.

I think it'll be between KR, Wakefield and Toronto. 

[Tre Cool 1,355]

People who think SBW is Toronto's only top level player need to look a little closer.  And I'm being polite.  They won't be near relegation and neither will Cas.

[The Blues Ox 833]

Hull KR all the way. I said with their signings they have put together a good squad ready for 2021 in the Championship.

[Oliver Clothesoff 2,805]

28 minutes ago, Tre Cool said:

People who think SBW is Toronto's only top level player need to look a little closer.  And I'm being polite.  They won't be near relegation and neither will Cas.

Who do you seem as their “top level player” or players?

[HKR AWAY DAYS 190]

20 hours ago, Lowdesert said:

The costs of running the ground now (note, I didn’t say down) will add to the pressure.  Relegation would have a bigger impact on HKR than any other club imo.

It had crossed my mind of course that relegation would be a disaster for us but Neil Hudgell has continued with the purchase and it is almost complete so what can I say, he knows what he is doing.

It could be a real turning point for us. We already have other revenue streams coming in from gigs and events at the stadium that pay very well. 

We have openly stated that marquee signings are not all too far away - so there must be positive things happening around the club.

For once it is nice to read so many positive things. Just got to ensure we are away from the bottom

[scotchy1 4,893]

Toronto are different to most clubs who are promoted, they have been  building towards this and basically ploughed through the championship with an SL squad. They dont need the massive turnover of other promoted clubs

Players like Stanley and Luetele, SBW are top SL quality players, Mullaly, Singleton, Mellor are proven SL players, lussick, McCrone, will go fine

A couple of SL quality props, maybe a fullback and they will be more than fine

[whatmichaelsays 660]

I think the odds are about right, although I'd have Wakefield shorter than Huddersfield personally. 

 

[Kenilworth Tiger 1,493]

On 02/01/2020 at 13:11, Marty Funkhouser said:

The odds are about right aside Toronto should be joint favourites with Hull KR.  SBW is the only reason you can get a big 5/1. However it will be a new experience for Sonny playing in the poorest team he has ever turned out for.

If they suffer more than a few injuries, never mind the 12,13 and 14 players missing that happens to some club every single season, they are in danger of been the first SL club to be unable to fulfill a fixture due to lack of players. 

If Toronto do not get a few wins early expect panic measures, fury at the salary cap  and dispensation requests all rounds.

Of the others, the odds are about right, however Castleford will revert to the mean at some point. 2nd poor pre-season now, poor signings aside the winger , Richardson in particular massively overrated. Trueman angling for a move. Shenton and Millington at the end. Powell has got some fantastic performances much greater than the parts but has perhaps overstayed now. 33/1 way too big a price even if its not this season but they will definitely finish very near the bottom in the not too distant future. 

Tell me more...not heard about this which is odd considering I follow pretty much every Cas offical/fan site on social media. you might have a real scoop here....by the way he signed a 4 year contract last year

[Man of Kent 5,391]

KR are 2/1 simply because they finished second bottom last year.

5/1 for Toronto is the obvious value bet with the bang-average squad at their disposal. Last time I looked they had 22 players signed on for this year, they have no reserve grade, no youth (not sure about DR) and 11 proper home games out of 29 rounds. Worth a nibble.