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Man of Kent

By Man of Kent
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paulwalker71

paulwalker71

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2 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

Lets say Leigh are to play Fev in a sunday 3pm non televised game next season with both teams up near the top, if not a top2 fixture. Corporate would be packed ie 20 exec boxes, sponsorship would be fully taken and dining room would have 200 in generating £40-50k, one would hope dependent on time of season a 4/5k gate and local pubs and on site beer/catering doing well.

Fast forward that to a monday evening and that income would conservatively drop by £40k and probably more.

If we have a deal that compensates the clubs for the losses and limits games that can be shown to 1 per season at home plus 1 away by lets say £50k per club then lt works, or indeed pay £50k per game shown to the home club.

If this is a fekk all deal then burn the paper its on unless its a major channel

Some good points there

We'd need to know how the games are chosen, and how much clout Premier would get in changing games at the last minute. I can imagine (in your example) Leigh being pretty miffed if that 'premium' match got switched to Monday after all the groundwork had been laid for the hospitality and corporate.

Of course, many Championship and League 1 sides don't really have corporate and/or hospitality. If Leigh and Fev got their Sunday afternoon slot, and the Monday match was Sheffield vs Dewsbury, then I don't suppose anyone has really lost out. In fact the Leigh and Fev fans get to watch an extra game on the Monday that they wouldn't see on Sunday!

AsI say, the devil will be in the detail on this....


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Spidey

Spidey

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22 minutes ago, paulwalker71 said:

Some good points there

We'd need to know how the games are chosen, and how much clout Premier would get in changing games at the last minute. I can imagine (in your example) Leigh being pretty miffed if that 'premium' match got switched to Monday after all the groundwork had been laid for the hospitality and corporate.

Of course, many Championship and League 1 sides don't really have corporate and/or hospitality. If Leigh and Fev got their Sunday afternoon slot, and the Monday match was Sheffield vs Dewsbury, then I don't suppose anyone has really lost out. In fact the Leigh and Fev fans get to watch an extra game on the Monday that they wouldn't see on Sunday!

AsI say, the devil will be in the detail on this....

Last time there were Monday night fixtures (in SL) they were known well in advance and were shared out equally. Hopefully similar arrangements will Be made

Spidey

Spidey

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3 hours ago, gingerjon said:

All sports play when TV tells them

Not exactly. Football sells specific ko times as packages. The Olympics schedule their events then sell to tv 

We’ve not got the profile of either of those I know. However if we’re giving away coverage for nothing it should be to suit RL. If TV is dictating the KO then appropriate compensation should be sought

LeeF

LeeF

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2 hours ago, Griff said:

We've played midweek games up there before.   I remember going to Carlisle, Whitehaven and Barrow on Wednesday nights in a six week period one year.  Granted, they're not as common as they were when the season was in winter and there were postponements but nobody whinged about it back them.

I'm pretty sure Whitehaven had games in the Premier TV days too.

Yep Haven did play away matches on Premier

They also played at London on a Wednesday in a non TV midweek game which involved some players catching the bus straight after a night shift; travelling; playing; travelling and then straight back to work

gingerjon

gingerjon

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2 hours ago, Spidey said:

Not exactly. Football sells specific ko times as packages. The Olympics schedule their events then sell to tv 

We’ve not got the profile of either of those I know. However if we’re giving away coverage for nothing it should be to suit RL. If TV is dictating the KO then appropriate compensation should be sought

The Olympics swimming finals this time around were the 'wrong' way round at the behest of NBC.

Monday Night Football only exists because Sky invented it.

Broadly, in most circumstances, sports dance to TV's tune.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

bobbruce

bobbruce

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3 hours ago, Spidey said:

Not exactly. Football sells specific ko times as packages. The Olympics schedule their events then sell to tv 

We’ve not got the profile of either of those I know. However if we’re giving away coverage for nothing it should be to suit RL. If TV is dictating the KO then appropriate compensation should be sought

Those kick off times are in the main to suit TV. 

bobbruce

bobbruce

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6 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

granted, I could pay staff £1 a hour just wont get staff

Exactly if clubs don’t think the deal will pay don’t accept it. 

sweaty craiq

sweaty craiq

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31 minutes ago, kev p said:

i agree, if the clubs are not going to make anything or even lose money over the deal, dont sign it!

You will have some clubs with a vote who would lose nothing by staging a Mon night game - they will take anything

LaneCoveTiger

LaneCoveTiger

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I think too many people look at the negatives. There are enough teams to spread out the Monday night games fairly. Corporate can still operate and is often popular as an after work event. If clubs know well in advance when their TV game is they can go all out to promote it and make it an event. Maybe involve local schools in the entertainment at halftime and having kids playing pregame. If clubs and make the championship look like a vibrant product on tv it will help their chance so of getting a bigger deal next time.

clogdance

clogdance

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Just think how 'Monday night football' seemed odd when Sky introduced it to the Premier League, and it worked well. But I'm not sure if they still do it, or it's now with the championship games.

LaneCoveTiger

LaneCoveTiger

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36 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:

Schools? On a school night? 🤣

All schools have occasional evening functions for concerts, dances ect. I’m not saying get the five year olds but older kids would be fine.

RigbyLuger

RigbyLuger

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1 hour ago, LaneCoveTiger said:

All schools have occasional evening functions for concerts, dances ect. I’m not saying get the five year olds but older kids would be fine.

I know, just that's a usual excuse from some for not going. Anything for greater community involvement is good.

cookey

cookey

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The usual negativity one expects on here.

Premier Sports now show both the newly revamped United Rugby Championship and the French Top 14. Both of these used to be on Sky Sports and/or BT Sport.

RigbyLuger

RigbyLuger

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1 hour ago, cookey said:

The usual negativity one expects on here.

Premier Sports now show both the newly revamped United Rugby Championship and the French Top 14. Both of these used to be on Sky Sports and/or BT Sport.

And now available to an audience much smaller.

The sport has built a platform (OuRLeague), and has the infrastructure available to stream on YouTube etc, to the possibility of a much larger audience.

If the money isn't there, why bother with a TV deal on a tiny channel?

Whippet13

Whippet13

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7 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:

And now available to an audience much smaller.

The sport has built a platform (OuRLeague), and has the infrastructure available to stream on YouTube etc, to the possibility of a much larger audience.

If the money isn't there, why bother with a TV deal on a tiny channel?

If the audience sizes are similar, I'd much rather pay £13pm to OurLeague than to Premier Sports, at least I know where all the profits are going.

thebrewxi

thebrewxi

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21 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:

If the audience sizes are similar, I'd much rather pay £13pm to OurLeague than to Premier Sports, at least I know where all the profits are going.

Ralph Rimmers suits

sentoffagain2

sentoffagain2

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44 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:

If the audience sizes are similar, I'd much rather pay £13pm to OurLeague than to Premier Sports, at least I know where all the profits are going.

Premier Sports works out at £2.31 a week and there is some decent content.

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