welshmagpie Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 https://treizemondial.fr/lyon-villeurbanne-renonce-aussi-elite-2/ Both clubs have withdrawn from Elite 2 for the upcoming season. Some shots from Lyon’s head honcho at the FFRXIII claiming they ignored the clubs’ desires for two pools in Elite Two. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Disappointing stuff, I can’t read French very well, does it say if they’re carrying on or packing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 30 minutes ago, welshmagpie said: https://treizemondial.fr/lyon-villeurbanne-renonce-aussi-elite-2/ Both clubs have withdrawn from Elite 2 for the upcoming season. Some shots from Lyon’s head honcho at the FFRXIII claiming they ignored the clubs’ desires for two pools in Elite Two. To be honest I saw this coming. FRL NEEDS TO FOCUS ON TRADITIONAL CLUBS AND REGIONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 6 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: To be honest I saw this coming. FRL NEEDS TO FOCUS ON TRADITIONAL CLUBS AND REGIONS Lyon are a traditional club though aren’t they? Albeit a bit distant from their heartlands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 Lyon drop down a division and Toulon stop altogether. There's a good chance the u15s will go to fortnightly or monthly tournaments like the kids! Which isn't a great idea for me, the kids need to play 13 a side and have a bit of competition over 60 mins and not 7 matches of 12 minutes over a day. Only 19 refs in the whole of France now and hoping another 4 will come back before the season starts in n elite 2 this weekend, so no refs for 3rd and 4th division, neither the u19s national, u17s , u15s and u13s, only elite 1 elite 2 and elite u18s will have a ref. Its a bad state of affairs! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 1 hour ago, ATLANTISMAN said: To be honest I saw this coming. FRL NEEDS TO FOCUS ON TRADITIONAL CLUBS AND REGIONS Sounds like an M62 corridor view. 1 1 "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 10 minutes ago, barnyia said: Lyon drop down a division and Toulon stop altogether. There's a good chance the u15s will go to fortnightly or monthly tournaments like the kids! Which isn't a great idea for me, the kids need to play 13 a side and have a bit of competition over 60 mins and not 7 matches of 12 minutes over a day. Only 19 refs in the whole of France now and hoping another 4 will come back before the season starts in n elite 2 this weekend, so no refs for 3rd and 4th division, neither the u19s national, u17s , u15s and u13s, only elite 1 elite 2 and elite u18s will have a ref. Its a bad state of affairs! The World Cup will help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daddy Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 1 hour ago, Lowdesert said: The World Cup will help. It can't come soon enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted September 26 Author Report Share Posted September 26 1 hour ago, barnyia said: Lyon drop down a division and Toulon stop altogether. There's a good chance the u15s will go to fortnightly or monthly tournaments like the kids! Which isn't a great idea for me, the kids need to play 13 a side and have a bit of competition over 60 mins and not 7 matches of 12 minutes over a day. Only 19 refs in the whole of France now and hoping another 4 will come back before the season starts in n elite 2 this weekend, so no refs for 3rd and 4th division, neither the u19s national, u17s , u15s and u13s, only elite 1 elite 2 and elite u18s will have a ref. Its a bad state of affairs! Is Lacoste aware of these issues? Or is he one to bury his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Griff said: Sounds like an M62 corridor view. No it's not Griff because the clubs are spread out so far Perpignan to Lyon is like going from London to Newcastle. Elite 2 regional makes sense it was always more traveling than Elite 1. Paul Edited September 26 by ATLANTISMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, welshmagpie said: Is Lacoste aware of these issues? Or is he one to bury his head? I don't think he knows what he let himself in for, apparently he's working very hard, as is Patrick pedrazani the vice president who was from the janzac list, but I heard some of the people on the lacoste list aren't as motivated and messing a good few things up. Edited September 26 by barnyia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 1 hour ago, barnyia said: I don't think he knows what he let himself in for, apparently he's working very hard, as is Patrick pedrazani the vice president who was from the janzac list, but I heard some of the people on the lacoste list aren't as motivated and messing a good few things up. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, barnyia said: Lyon drop down a division and Toulon stop altogether. There's a good chance the u15s will go to fortnightly or monthly tournaments like the kids! Which isn't a great idea for me, the kids need to play 13 a side and have a bit of competition over 60 mins and not 7 matches of 12 minutes over a day. Only 19 refs in the whole of France now and hoping another 4 will come back before the season starts in n elite 2 this weekend, so no refs for 3rd and 4th division, neither the u19s national, u17s , u15s and u13s, only elite 1 elite 2 and elite u18s will have a ref. Its a bad state of affairs! Sounds like they could do with a bit of help from across the channel, Christ Trent Robinson and the NRL might be worth giving a ring, it`s off-season over here now maybe a few junior Aussie refs might like a working holiday for free-board and a feed. Edited September 26 by The Rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 so Toulon no longer exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted September 26 Report Share Posted September 26 To those on here obsessed with expansion what ever the costs, please take note. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 From a basic knowledge of RL in France, this sort of stuff has been going on for years. It's not new but the game is too weak there now to be able to handle upsets and walk outs. I wonder if a non French person in charge of the game there may be a better way forward? My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 7 hours ago, The Rocket said: maybe a few junior Aussie refs might like a working holiday for free-board and a feed. You might want to google visas at some point. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 6 hours ago, Gooleboy said: To those on here obsessed with expansion what ever the costs, please take note. Failure to expand guarantees contraction is a worthwhile lesson to pick up. We agree. 4 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 2 hours ago, gingerjon said: You might want to google visas at some point. Plenty of Aussies, Kiwis and Saffas come over and "work/play" for local cricket clubs in Britain tbf. Its not abnormal per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 Just now, Tommygilf said: Plenty of Aussies, Kiwis and Saffas come over and "work/play" for local cricket clubs in Britain tbf. Its not abnormal per se. They tend to have a job as club professional which is technically a full time job and/or that happened prior to the loss of easy to attain kolpak visas and/or they are playing recreational cricket whilst having a job in something else which may not be related to cricket. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 5 minutes ago, gingerjon said: They tend to have a job as club professional which is technically a full time job and/or that happened prior to the loss of easy to attain kolpak visas and/or they are playing recreational cricket whilst having a job in something else which may not be related to cricket. Yeah like "club groundsman" or something similar - in my limited experience anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlno1 Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 6 hours ago, RayCee said: From a basic knowledge of RL in France, this sort of stuff has been going on for years. It's not new but the game is too weak there now to be able to handle upsets and walk outs. I wonder if a non French person in charge of the game there may be a better way forward? I doubt it, the fact is the game is a minor sport with very little money. It competes with RU and soccer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 15 minutes ago, rlno1 said: the fact is the game is a minor sport with very little money. It competes with RU and soccer. I was talking about France, not the UK. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frying Scotsman Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said: Plenty of Aussies, Kiwis and Saffas come over and "work/play" for local cricket clubs in Britain tbf. Its not abnormal per se. It is for Rugby League in the UK. League 1 is classed as a "professional" league. (Laughable, I know) so work permit regulations come into force. London Skolars were caught out badly a few years ago, when they had put together a decent side. Their foreign players had to leave the club. A lot of them started playing rugby union in 'amateur' leagues for more money than Skolars had been paying them. The level at Skolars tanked immediately after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 On the plus side, another team in Lyon are doing well https://www.ffr13.fr/reprise-des-entrainements-et-assemblee-generale-au-caluire-rl/?fbclid=IwAR0mQCuyztSdmckB7W9m4TNurnf4uKPk7avDgg1qLTvHTVbauali7YmZ0R8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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