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Sat 9 Oct: SLGF: Catalans Dragons v St Helens KO 18:00 (Sky)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Catalans Dragons by 13 points or more
      3
    • Catalans Dragons by 7 to 12 points
      16
    • Catalans Dragons by 1 to 6 points
      29
    • St Helens by 1 to 6 points
      10
    • St Helens by 7 to 12 points
      19
    • St Helens by 13 points or more
      12

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  • Poll closed on 09/10/21 at 17:30

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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Maybe, but I think you are playing the call down. Catalans have possession in the Saints half on the 4th tackle with 2.5 mins left. That call gives Saints the ball and the turnover happens on Catalans 10m line with 80 seconds left. 

Cats had had quite a lot of position in attack in the 2nd half and hadn't looked particularly likely to score. Their single try was relatively fortunate.

It was 95%+ that the set would've ended without a try.

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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Maybe, but I think you are playing the call down. Catalans have possession in the Saints half on the 4th tackle with 2.5 mins left. That call gives Saints the ball and the turnover happens on Catalans 10m line with 80 seconds left. 

I think he got that one wrong, but I also think he got call wrong a few minutes earlier when it blatantly came of a Catalans player but he gave a drop out for saints, but that's not getting mentioned at all.

Swings and roundabouts...

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7 minutes ago, Tabby said:

He doesn’t stand to play the ball. So shouldn’t have played it.

He does stand up. His feet are up and his hands are off the ground. 

I'd add an image but I can't compress it enough. There is no offence from Tomkins. At all. 

 

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Just now, Maximus Decimus said:

There are probably 30 decisions in a game like that one that a ref could/could've given, I'm sure Catalans got some calls for them that should've been a penalty.

Had the ref allowed play on, I doubt a single person on this thread would've mentioned it.

I wanted Catalans to win and was annoyed by the call as it effectively ended the game, but it was hardly like an incorrect forward pass call when a player is straight through or something.

But it still was an incorrect call that decided the outcome,haven’t a clue what your last point has to do with anything.

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5 minutes ago, Bod said:

You also can't tackle with the knees to the head. Eight point try all day, but not on here.

You also can't be offisde, but they let that one slide too.

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5 minutes ago, andyscoot said:

So why didn't he penalise it every time?

You should only play the ball when the marker is clear. You can’t call it interference at the PTB if it’s an incorrect PTB. Which it was.

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On the tram, very enjoyable occasion and game. 45k looked about right I was pretty high.

Arm wrestle between 2 of the top sides. RL can be just fun sometimes without being over picky.

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2 minutes ago, dkw said:

I think he got that one wrong, but I also think he got call wrong a few minutes earlier when it blatantly came of a Catalans player but he gave a drop out for saints, but that's not getting mentioned at all.

Swings and roundabouts...

I'm not sure which one you mean on that tbh

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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

He does stand up. His feet are up and his hands are off the ground. 

I'd add an image but I can't compress it enough. There is no offence from Tomkins. At all. 

 

By the way, his feet are not up. I don't know why I typed that. I meant he has both feet on the ground (not knees). 

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3 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

But it still was an incorrect call that decided the outcome,haven’t a clue what your last point has to do with anything.

The point is that it didn't really do much to decide the outcome and it is being treated like a legitimate try was chalked off.

It was an incorrect call, but a penalty to Tomkins wouldn't have been a good one and in the circumstances would've been soft.

If the ref had to give a penalty it should've gone to Tomkins, but he didn't need to and shouldn't have given one either way.

 

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The touch save by coote, just to clear the rule up for me, I always thought that if the ball crossed the line in the air it was in touch, it doesn't need to touch the ground,so if you jump from the field of play the ball is still out! 

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8 minutes ago, Scubby said:

On the tram, very enjoyable occasion and game. 45k looked about right I was pretty high.

Arm wrestle between 2 of the top sides. RL can be just fun sometimes without being over picky.

Good work

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Old Faithful we never lose at Wembley

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Just now, barnyia said:

The touch save by coote, just to clear the rule up for me, I always thought that if the ball crossed the line in the air it was in touch, it doesn't need to touch the ground,so if you jump from the field of play the ball is still out! 

No, if you jump from the field and get the ball back in before it hits the ground its play on.

In this case though coote went for a stroll of the pitch then threw it back in, which was missed by the Lino, incredibly 

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Request to the powers that be in Super League -can we please play next season's Grand final without a referee and  make all decisions via a link with this forum. That way the game can be decided by majority vote and will probably last until Wednesday. For heaven's sake you moaning miseries - if you didn't enjoy that game then go and watch something else and stop complaining about he referee.

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7 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I'm not sure which one you mean on that tbh

The 2nd drop out I think, I rewound it at the time as it looked a wrong call.

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1 minute ago, barnyia said:

The touch save by coote, just to clear the rule up for me, I always thought that if the ball crossed the line in the air it was in touch, it doesn't need to touch the ground,so if you jump from the field of play the ball is still out! 

Someone else will know for sure but my understanding is if you jump from the field of play and nudge the back back in without touching the ground that's okay.

 

Trouble is Coote both jumped from an "out" position because his feet were touching the line when he jumped but he also landed before jumping again. He effectively jumped twice from outside the field of play and it was allowed.

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Just now, Rowan said:

Request to the powers that be in Super League -can we please play next season's Grand final without a referee and  make all decisions via a link with this forum. That way the game can be decided by majority vote and will probably last until Wednesday. For heaven's sake you moaning miseries - if you didn't enjoy that game then go and watch something else and stop complaining about he referee.

I don't think anyone has said they didn't enjoy the game. 

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Can argue about particular decisions all night, but in my opinion the ref did a good job and managed to avoid being influenced by the constant arm waving from the team from Merseyside.

 

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10 minutes ago, Scubby said:

On the tram, very enjoyable occasion and game. 45k looked about right I was pretty high.

Arm wrestle between 2 of the top sides. RL can be just fun sometimes without being over picky.

Back at our hotel... Enjoyed it and atmosphere was fantastic despite a lower than normal crowd 

We are debating whether we go to Headingly tomorow or not... Think we will.... 

Anyway... Now we are continuing the party while watching the dancing on telly! 

 

 

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1 minute ago, andyscoot said:

Someone else will know for sure but my understanding is if you jump from the field of play and nudge the back back in without touching the ground that's okay.

 

Trouble is Coote both jumped from an "out" position because his feet were touching the line when he jumped but he also landed before jumping again. He effectively jumped twice from outside the field of play and it was allowed.

He was miles out, big blunder from the touchie.

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1 minute ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

 

Anyway... Now we are continuing the party while watching the dancing on telly! 

 

 

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The England football match?

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4 minutes ago, Rowan said:

Request to the powers that be in Super League -can we please play next season's Grand final without a referee and  make all decisions via a link with this forum. That way the game can be decided by majority vote and will probably last until Wednesday. For heaven's sake you moaning miseries - if you didn't enjoy that game then go and watch something else and stop complaining about he referee.

Refs done nothing wrong. Video ref was more of an issue.

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