Attendances (Multiple Merged Threads)

[ShropshireBull]

2 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Wakey v Cas recently only managed 5000, I can’t see why a game against Featherstone would be any bigger 

Because it hasnt been played a hundred times with loop fixtures. 

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

43 minutes ago, fevtom said:

I would think Bradford and Widnes will bring more than the last few games at post office road (Sheffield, London, Halifax) and everything else being equal they would attract more home fans too. 
 

Fev have said they expect this weekends game to be the biggest crowd for five years so they must be on track for close to 5,000.

Can't see Widnes taking many on Sunday. They've sucked all the enthusiasm out of us. I'd be looking at around £40 to £45 for ticket and petrol and tbh I'd probably get more pleasure flushing the money down the loo.

[meast]

Would Featherstone really attract 5-6,000 in SL?

I'm not too sure really, maybe the first couple of games, maybe against Castleford or Leeds, but I think they'd more than likely struggle to attract 4,000.

The novelty of seeing top flight rugby would soon wear off I think.

 

[GUBRATS]

31 minutes ago, meast said:

Would Featherstone really attract 5-6,000 in SL?

I'm not too sure really, maybe the first couple of games, maybe against Castleford or Leeds, but I think they'd more than likely struggle to attract 4,000.

The novelty of seeing top flight rugby would soon wear off I think.

 

The novelty of getting your Harris wupped would 

[GUBRATS]

ATM Fev are doing well at building their core support , where that would be in SL is always going to be guesswork , if they get the chance to find out , they will deserve it 

[Leyther_Matt]

13 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

Back in 2017 our best was about 1500 from Saints , Wire and Wigan were very disappointing 

Saints was 2,882
Wigan 1,410 (they actually brought more for the friendly - 1,692)
Wire 1,419

And just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, Hull brought 1,288 and Hull KR (cup) brought 1,290

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

If Featherstone are promoted I can say as a Leeds fan I probably wouldn’t bother going to Featherstone away, it has very little appeal. If Featherstone think they’d double their attendances in Super League they’re completely deluded.

[JonM]

15 hours ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

Can't see Widnes taking many on Sunday. They've sucked all the enthusiasm out of us. I'd be looking at around £40 to £45 for ticket and petrol and tbh I'd probably get more pleasure flushing the money down the loo.

Yep. This is the one away game of the year that we avoid in any case, but this really will just be the absolute diehards only. Less than 200 from Widnes I would think.

[Tubby]

16 hours ago, Dallas Mead said:

No chance, all the years in the top league they averaged about 3,500.  The population is what…..13,000? Jeepers.

Why do people insist on assuming support comes from within a mile of the ground.  Is this assumed for all clubs?  Do Warrington fans travel more than a mile to get to the HJ?  Featherstone's support has always come from the Five towns area with 300,000 or so to go at.  Yes, the ground is in Featherstone, but most support comes from the many towns and villages around.

[EggFace]

15 hours ago, meast said:

Would Featherstone really attract 5-6,000 in SL?

I'm not too sure really, maybe the first couple of games, maybe against Castleford or Leeds, but I think they'd more than likely struggle to attract 4,000.

The novelty of seeing top flight rugby would soon wear off I think.

 

So Featherstone's have to put up with being in Limbo League as every team deserves the right to be in the top flight if that's what they want off course.

[ShropshireBull]

If Fev go up, same as Leigh, I´d expect both to be competitive with Salford whose income is not significantly greater than the other two and Fev , if they were only in the League for a year , could probably rinse enough money from that one SL season to fund another push next time. 

 

[Tommygilf]

51 minutes ago, Tubby said:

Why do people insist on assuming support comes from within a mile of the ground.  Is this assumed for all clubs?  Do Warrington fans travel more than a mile to get to the HJ?  Featherstone's support has always come from the Five towns area with 300,000 or so to go at.  Yes, the ground is in Featherstone, but most support comes from the many towns and villages around.

That is absolutely true, they draw fans from across the WMDC. Unfortunately 2 other Super League clubs and indeed Leeds also do too.

[Dallas Mead]

2 hours ago, Tubby said:

Why do people insist on assuming support comes from within a mile of the ground.  Is this assumed for all clubs?  Do Warrington fans travel more than a mile to get to the HJ?  Featherstone's support has always come from the Five towns area with 300,000 or so to go at.  Yes, the ground is in Featherstone, but most support comes from the many towns and villages around.

…… and they still DID and WOULD average only about 3,500 in the top tier of rugby league.  Yes?

[Tubby]

6 minutes ago, Dallas Mead said:

…… and they still DID and WOULD average only about 3,500 in the top tier of rugby league.  Yes?

I’m not a big fan of predictions, I would hope with a sustained period in SL, they would do better. Bit no-o e knows, it’s over 20 years since we were able to find out. 

[Scubby]

Flying high at the top of the table with an invincible team is very different from being P10 W1 L9 in Super League - ask Toulouse. 

They are doing okay in SL with 5-6k crowds but sport is a much tougher sell to fans when you are bottom of the ladder. Fev are on a feelgood march at the moment and it is good to see the crowds improving.

[Tubby]

2 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

That is absolutely true, they draw fans from across the WMDC. Unfortunately 2 other Super League clubs and indeed Leeds also do too.

They do, but there is no formula for the number of fans from any given population, nor for calculating a population of catchment (geographical? Metropolitan? Socio-economic?). It’s all conjecture. If they play well enough and get promoted, we’ll find out. 

[Tubby]

1 minute ago, Scubby said:

Flying high at the top of the table with an invincible team is very different from being P10 W1 L9 in Super League - ask Toulouse. 

They are doing okay in SL with 5-6k crowds but sport is a much tougher sell to fans when you are bottom of the ladder. Fev are on a feelgood march at the moment and it is good to see the crowds improving.

No doubt, but until they achieve promotion, no-one knows. Much the same as we don’t know what Saints/Wigan/Leeds crowds would be like after 25years in the second division. 

[Scubby]

8 minutes ago, Tubby said:

No doubt, but until they achieve promotion, no-one knows. Much the same as we don’t know what Saints/Wigan/Leeds crowds would be like after 25years in the second division. 

I recall watching Fev a lot as a teen in the late 1980s and early 1990s and the best average I think in the top flight was around the 4,700 mark. I think they have a good chance of beating that in 2023 and a 5k average in their first year of SL would be commendable. 

[Chris22]

If Featherstone win the Championship Grand Final, they deserve a chance in Super League irrespective of potential crowd figures or location.

[Josef K]

37 minutes ago, Chris22 said:

If Featherstone win the Championship Grand Final, they deserve a chance in Super League irrespective of potential crowd figures or location.

Can’t argue with that. 

[theswanmcr]

1 hour ago, Chris22 said:

If Featherstone win the Championship Grand Final, they deserve a chance in Super League irrespective of potential crowd figures or location.

I'm all for franchising and think having 3 teams in Wakefield borough in SL is crazy... but totally agree with that.

They've been great to watch this year and if they do win then they totally deserve their place.

[GUBRATS]

7 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Saints was 2,882
Wigan 1,410 (they actually brought more for the friendly - 1,692)
Wire 1,419

And just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, Hull brought 1,288 and Hull KR (cup) brought 1,290

There's always one ' smart Harris ' that has to show you up isn't there ?

[GUBRATS]

5 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

If Featherstone are promoted I can say as a Leeds fan I probably wouldn’t bother going to Featherstone away, it has very little appeal. If Featherstone think they’d double their attendances in Super League they’re completely deluded.

That's a plus then

[GUBRATS]

2 hours ago, Tubby said:

I’m not a big fan of predictions, I would hope with a sustained period in SL, they would do better. Bit no-o e knows, it’s over 20 years since we were able to find out. 

It's the ' sustained ' bit that's the problem 

[GUBRATS]

2 hours ago, Tubby said:

No doubt, but until they achieve promotion, no-one knows. Much the same as we don’t know what Saints/Wigan/Leeds crowds would be like after 25years in the second division. 

Bradford are trying their best to show us