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Mon 18th Apr: SL: Hull FC v Warrington Wolves KO 17:30 (Sky)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Hull FC
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    • Warrington Wolves
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  • Poll closed on 18/04/22 at 17:00

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2 minutes ago, dkw said:

What, don't milk a penalty? He has no one to blame but himself. Just get up, play it and their in a great attacking position.  Amazing to see rl fans ok with play acting and cheating.

In this discussion I don't know or care whether he was trying to milk a penalty. 

My point is that by the laws of the game he played the ball correctly and was penalised for playing it incorrectly.... while almost every other play the ball in this game and this season broke the laws of the game.

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Warrington have been robbed there, no way that ball was down. How can a ref send it upstairs as a try when he clearly couldn’t see the ball ? 

I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally

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No way. The only reason he has given that is because the Hull player claimed he had got it down.

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2 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

In this discussion I don't know or care whether he was trying to milk a penalty. 

My point is that by the laws of the game he played the ball correctly and was penalised for playing it incorrectly.... while almost every other play the ball in this game and this season broke the laws of the game.

But he didn't, it wasnt anything like a controlled play the ball as he launched himself forward. 

 

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Just now, dkw said:

But he didn't, it wasnt anything like a controlled play the ball as he launched himself forward. 

 

This is my point.  The laws of the game make no mention of control, that is the interpretation that we now use to allow hundreds of incorrect play the balls and penalise this one.

As I say, if you can show me the laws of the game that were broken there and deserved a penalty, I will hold my hands up and say I am wrong.

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In my view, Hull deserved the win...just. Entertaining high energy game. 

I'm interested in that drive, that rush to judgment, that is so prevalent in our society. We all know that pleasurable rush that comes from condemning, and in the short term it's quite a satisfying thing to do, isn't it?

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

This is my point.  The laws of the game make no mention of control, 

 

Oh come on, that's ridiculous levels of pedantry. 

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3 minutes ago, dkw said:

Oh come on, that's ridiculous levels of pedantry. 

Sorry, I am genuinely at a loss to understand your point here.  We are talking about the application of the laws of the game and you say that actually mentioning what the laws do or don't say is pedantry?

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On the Mau try, the referee awarded a try on the field and then ask the VR to look for conclusive evidence that it WASN'T grounded correctly, the VR couldn't find any evidence to deny that he had grounded the ball, therefore the try had the stand as the on field ref gave it.

We may not like it, because in effect they both guessed as to whether a try is scored.

For me, unless there is absolute conclusive evidence then a try shouldn't be awarded.

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2 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Sorry, I am genuinely at a loss to understand your point here.  We are talking about the application of the laws of the game and you say that actually mentioning what the laws do or don't say is pedantry?

It also doesn't specifically say don't milk a penalty, so let's just let that happen too.

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We've said it before and will again - this system for the video ref is really truly appalling. The on field ref doesn't know so why give them any say in it?

 

When they brought it in they managed to change something which wasn't broken and which nobody was calling for. 

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31 minutes ago, dkw said:

He didn't though, you can't play it while falling forward trying to milk a penalty. 

Indeed. It is weird to claim that as a good PTB. I understand the point, but this is the problem with the obsession with studs touching leather. 

People who hate the current PTB would rather see that. 

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Just now, M j M said:

We've said it before and will again - this system for the video ref is really truly appalling. The on field ref doesn't know so why give them any say in it?

 

When they brought it in they managed to change something which wasn't broken and which nobody was calling for. 

I'm not gonna moan about the refereeing, not my style, but this VR system is weird and always has been. 

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5 minutes ago, meast said:

On the Mau try, the referee awarded a try on the field and then ask the VR to look for conclusive evidence that it WASN'T grounded correctly, the VR couldn't find any evidence to deny that he had grounded the ball, therefore the try had the stand as the on field ref gave it.

We may not like it, because in effect they both guessed as to whether a try is scored.

For me, unless there is absolute conclusive evidence then a try shouldn't be awarded.

It was absolutely the correct decision by the VR based on the current processes. 

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1 minute ago, M j M said:

We've said it before and will again - this system for the video ref is really truly appalling. The on field ref doesn't know so why give them any say in it?

 

When they brought it in they managed to change something which wasn't broken and which nobody was calling for. 

It's really odd isn't it, vr was brought in to assist refs who aren't sure if it's a try, but then they changed it to make a ref who doesn't know if its a try make a decision on if its a try.

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3 minutes ago, dkw said:

It also doesn't specifically say don't milk a penalty, so let's just let that happen too.

As I have said, I don't know if he was trying to milk a penalty or not - my point is not about that at all.

he was penalised for playing the ball incorrectly.

Let me ask you a simple yes or no question.  According to the laws of the game (not this years interpretations, the actual laws) was this an incorrect play the ball?

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