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Sun 15th May : SL : Toulouse Olympique v Wakefield Trinity KO 3:30pm local (2:30pm UK)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Toulouse Olympique
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    • Wakefield Trinity
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19 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

Omega, carters miserly budget dosnt wash with me. Dont forget the bloke found a six figure sum to pay off a coach on the basis of a verbal agreement. Chesters contract was up at the end of the season. Why didnt he let it run its course and just send him on gardening leave. Or did he lie to his fellow directors and not tell them chester had infact been given and signed a further contract without their knowledge. Whatever, it was all a costly and unnecessary episode for a club like ours. The bloke then has the cheek to bleat on about the lack of funds. 

Thats only scratching the surface, he wasted money on gigot and gave ryan atkins quite a lot for a few games. He also allowed chester to waste loads on rubbish signings. The reason the club are skint and performing terribly is in the main down to stupid rugby decisions all made or agreed by Carter

He's probably keeping a bit back for the ground rebuild

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16 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

He's probably keeping a bit back for the ground rebuild

Trust me, Carter isn’t contributing one penny of his own money to the redevelopment

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18 minutes ago, OMEGA said:

Wakefield Trinity, under the miserly budget that Carter allows, have shopped in the bargain basement for about 6 years and the result is a Championship level group of players bar 2 or 3. It’s OK to set a budget and stable use the club but he/we have never moved on from there and here we are fighting off relegation.

 

I have no problem with what Carter did, clubs should financially live within their means.  He might have just ran out of time, they were protected 2020 by Toronto bust,  then rigged system vs Leigh and now they have proper competition. 

If they stay up then new developement will let them compete but crucially If they go down they actually will have infrastructure in place to come back stronger and less dependent on tv handouts. Wakey with chance to compete at top end of división, winning games first season in champ is opportunity for a relaunch. 

Its also why I dont consider any coach to be doing a bad job at Wakey.  Every year they are second to third poorest in league, Its economics not coaching That makes the biggest difference. 

Also shows why 10 team SL would be a joke but thats another discussion. 

 

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23 minutes ago, OMEGA said:

Trust me, Carter isn’t contributing one penny of his own money to the redevelopment

Agreed, but let's not get too giddy just yet. Yorkcourt are still holding onto their contribution. An old saying in the commercial world. A sale is not done till the money is in the bank. 

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Looking ahead,  Giants win this week keeps them snug in playoffs so might be some rotation week before Challenge Cup so chance for Toulouse away.  

Meanwhile,  Wakey have Leeds away who need to win this now to get themselves out of relegation fight. 

Could be Toulouse off the bottom this time next week and get really interesting. 

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1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

I have no problem with what Carter did, clubs should financially live within their means.  He might have just ran out of time, they were protected 2020 by Toronto bust,  then rigged system vs Leigh and now they have proper competition. 

If they stay up then new developement will let them compete but crucially If they go down they actually will have infrastructure in place to come back stronger and less dependent on tv handouts. Wakey with chance to compete at top end of división, winning games first season in champ is opportunity for a relaunch. 

Its also why I dont consider any coach to be doing a bad job at Wakey.  Every year they are second to third poorest in league, Its economics not coaching That makes the biggest difference. 

Also shows why 10 team SL would be a joke but thats another discussion. 

 

2020 HKR finished bottom, 2021 Salford 2nd bottom to Leigh.

 Up the Trin 

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2 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

That’s a massive win for TO. Appreciate Salford have won today but TO are still in striking distance of them and clearly Wakefield and Leeds… interesting times ahead. Allez TO. 

Tremendous win considering they kept Corey Norman up their sleeves although Daniel Alvaro made his debut from the bench. And great they have Mathieu Jussaume back at centre.

Their home form will make or break them and the month of July is absolutely crucial: - Magic v Wakefield and successive home games v Hull KR, Leeds, Salford and Hull.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, WakefieldCityLoyal said:

2020 HKR finished bottom, 2021 Salford 2nd bottom to Leigh.

 Up the Trin 

But Hull KR knew they couldnt be relegated so bled alot of youngsters.  Obviously if there was relegation clubs would act differently.  

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2 minutes ago, Szymala said:

Tremendous win considering they kept Corey Norman up their sleeves although Daniel Alvaro made his debut from the bench. And great they have Mathieu Jussaume back at centre.

Their home form will make or break them and the month of July is absolutely crucial: - Magic v Wakefield and successive home games v Hull KR, Leeds, Salford and Hull.

 

Thank you - some very interesting points. 

When Norman is playing, who makes way? Gigot to centre perhaps? Or Ashall-Bott to the wing with Gigot at full back? Might look something like this:

1. Gigot 2. Ashall-Bott 3. Hankinson 4. Jussaume 5. Macron 6. Norman  7. Albert

They also need to get Garbutt fit - him alongside Alvaro, Sangare, Puech, Springer et al has some depth and strength to it.

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15 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

Thank you - some very interesting points. 

When Norman is playing, who makes way? Gigot to centre perhaps? Or Ashall-Bott to the wing with Gigot at full back? Might look something like this:

1. Gigot 2. Ashall-Bott 3. Hankinson 4. Jussaume 5. Macron 6. Norman  7. Albert

They also need to get Garbutt fit - him alongside Alvaro, Sangare, Puech, Springer et al has some depth and strength to it.

Houles is unlikely to drop leading try-scorer Matty Russell (having missed only 1 game all year) and Ashall-Bott's 2 tries today suggest he is finding his best attacking form at full-back.

It will be nice for the coach to have real competition for places at such a crucial stage. And but for that 1-point defeat to Wigan and the Easter Monday lapse after leading 18-4 against Hull KR, they might be in an even better position.

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Toulouse are stronger than start of season and many wont fancy playing in that heat. That points difference is worth a point though but could see them sneaking something next week if Giants rotate for cup. 

Then Wakey can really start panicking. 

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13 minutes ago, Ant said:

I'd quite happily see the Giants throw next week game to make Wakey squirm 🤣

I would love it, LOVE IT if we contributed to their demise !!!!

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9 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

Thank you - some very interesting points. 

When Norman is playing, who makes way? Gigot to centre perhaps? Or Ashall-Bott to the wing with Gigot at full back? Might look something like this:

1. Gigot 2. Ashall-Bott 3. Hankinson 4. Jussaume 5. Macron 6. Norman  7. Albert

They also need to get Garbutt fit - him alongside Alvaro, Sangare, Puech, Springer et al has some depth and strength to it.

Peyrou, Paolo, norman, schaumkel,armitage,belmas. All are back soon from injuries 

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2 hours ago, PECETTO said:

Peyrou, Paolo, norman, schaumkel,armitage,belmas. All are back soon from injuries 

Desperately sad to see Lloyd White pull up again, this time in the 1st few minutes. He really does not have any luck with his injury. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him play again this season. 

Norman might make it to the squad for the Huddersfield match but he is no where near match fitness yet, although I would take 20minutes of him on the pitch for none at all. Maybe Mitch will be back, but more likely he will be available for the Saints match early June. 

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Will the Dragons come into the picture some time? Saturday at Brutus 17-21 you had De Costa, Seugier, Jullien and Romano. All now with SL experience. As the injury situation improves -McMeeken not far off now. McNamara seems to have good relation ship with Houles and could be a helping hand. Also with fringe players from the Dragons reserve team now finished their season could come into the picture  too - Rouge, Franco etc.

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23 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Could this be the year the Wakey t*rd is finally flushed? 

They're a strange outfit, for a few years now they've been threatening to come good, some of their fans, media and neutrals get a bit giddy off the back of a few good results, like the back end of last year when Poching was lauded as the next best thing, it was the same with Chester, then he became unloved.

At the start of the year, a lot of people were again getting giddy about Wakefield and Poching, and yet again they're back to being pants and not as good as people thought they were.

They have some good players, the often brilliant, but all too often injured Tom John Stones, and Reece Lyne is pretty solid, Jowitt, Crowther and Bachelor usually impress me too, but I think they have far too many like Miller who are just wildly inconsistent, not just week by week but during games.

It must be frustrating for their fans as one minute they look like they're going to be challenging at the top, giddiness sets in then reality bites, it's been the same for a few years now.

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38 minutes ago, meast said:

They're a strange outfit, for a few years now they've been threatening to come good, some of their fans, media and neutrals get a bit giddy off the back of a few good results, like the back end of last year when Poching was lauded as the next best thing, it was the same with Chester, then he became unloved.

At the start of the year, a lot of people were again getting giddy about Wakefield and Poching, and yet again they're back to being pants and not as good as people thought they were.

They have some fine players, the often brilliant, but all too often Tom John Stones, and Reece Lyne is pretty solid, but Jowitt, Crowther and Bachelor always impress me too, but I think they have far too many like Miller who are just wildly inconsistent, not just week by week but during games.

It must be frustrating for their fans as one minute they look like they're going to be challenging at the top, giddiness sets in then reality bits, it's been the same for a few years now.

This is actually a really good post and pretty much sums up where the club is at. 
 

The fans are incredibly frustrated year on year. We lose a few tight games against the best the league has to offer then we win 3 on the bounce wire x 2 and salford. 
 

We then proceed to lose 6 and look like an amateur team who just got thrown together. 
 

It’s absolutely infuriating and with no recent success the fans are getting fed up. 
 

The only positive is we have some cracking young lads coming through in Murphy, Hall, Eseh, Bowes. 
 

We had Tanginoa make the dream team in 2020 and get repeated MOTM performances busting down field and looking like the best second row in the comp. We start 2021 with Ashurst returning from a long injury and then move Tanginoa to prop and he now looks like a bang average prop struggling to make inroads down the middle. Mind absolutely boggles.

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23 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Could this be the year the Wakey t*rd is finally flushed? 

Really struggling to understand this mentality and the number of likes the post attracted. So much for the rugby league family! I can see the positives for the game if Toulouse stay up but obviously wouldn't wish it at Wakey's expense. I guess if it were between Toulouse and any other team I'd be rooting for Toulouse, so I get that, but to refer to a rugby league club in that language is mind boggling.

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7 minutes ago, north yorks trinity said:

Really struggling to understand this mentality and the number of likes the post attracted. So much for the rugby league family! I can see the positives for the game if Toulouse stay up but obviously wouldn't wish it at Wakey's expense. I guess if it were between Toulouse and any other team I'd be rooting for Toulouse, so I get that, but to refer to a rugby league club in that language is mind boggling.

I see Wakefield as a sort of barometer for Super League. The worse they are doing, the stronger it is. 

That said, Hull KR have fallen off a cliff so I’m not celebrating yet. 

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Waiting for my train in Calais so catching up on the forum now:)

The heat will play a big part if Toulouse can win 6 maybe 7 i think they will stay up.

The Broncos winning 10 and going down 3 seasons ago still sticks in my head as totally unlucky, this season though i think 6/7 wins for any of the current bottom placed clubs will do it 

BTW Gigot had a stinker on Sunday and they still managed a win:)

 

Paul

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