Sat 1st-Sun 2nd Apr: The Betfred Challenge Cup Fourth Round Match Thread

[dixiedean]

1 hour ago, Futtocks said:

It's been a day of tight finishes!

York scrape home by a gnat's crotchet.

Batley 80 Hunslet Ams. 6.

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

24 minutes ago, crashmon said:

Your in Richmond and you was able to get a burger for only 6 quid.... Lucky boy, its usually over a tenner

No, Red Rooster was in Richmond-on-Thames.  Richmond is in Yorkshire!

[doc]

We are playing awful again, but credit to Dewsbury they are the better side. 

[doc]

Yet another sin binning. Think that's 5 in last 4 games. Severe lack of disipline.

[Just Browny]

That's a hell of a result for Dewsbury.

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

Dewsbury beat us all over the field. Well deserved victory for them.

[Padge]

4 hours ago, Tubby said:

Quite.  But they didn’t have the advantage of rewinding and rewatching it four or five times. 

So they have to do it in real time, you are sat in your armchair with all the technology at hand, case closed, they gave what they saw, which is what they should do.

 

[sentoffagain2]

  With Fev not having a game i went and thought Dewsbury totally outplayed Widnes.Sykes who has ditched his 40 number and is back in a number 6 one organised well and his long pass set up Dewsbury's first try.Butterworth the hooker was a real box of tricks and had a superb game.I also liked Greensmith in the left centre and number 8 forward Becket.with Turner at scrum half doing the out of hand kicking he also played well.Widnes probably thought they would win without too much effort and Dewsburys work rate and spirit overwhelmed them.I enjoyed the game it's a tidy little ground.

[DEANO]

3 hours ago, tim2 said:

York probably deserved that because of how they dominated the 13 v 13. If Sheffield had tackled like they did in the last 20 minutes in the first 20, they wouldn't have had such problems.

If Kidman’s wasn’t sent off

if there was a sin bin/ sending off for the trip on marsh

had we kicked our goals

all ilffs and buts 

[tim2]

2 minutes ago, DEANO said:

If Kidman’s wasn’t sent off

if there was a sin bin/ sending off for the trip on marsh

had we kicked our goals

all ilffs and buts 

The game was won in the first 20 when Sheffield showed York (and themselves) zero respect. The only way back from that was handed to them by the red card and they still couldn't take it.

[Tubby]

32 minutes ago, Padge said:

So they have to do it in real time, you are sat in your armchair with all the technology at hand, case closed, they gave what they saw, which is what they should do.

 

It wasn’t a criticism of the officials, merely an observation of my opinion on the ‘foul play’ after several replays. I can however see how you’d assume it was in this place…

In all honesty, I didn’t even notice the contact live, and had to replay several times to form an opinion, I also generally think we would be better allowing the on-field officials to make all decisions, without referral to a video ref and just accept that they can only give what they see. 

[coolie]

1 hour ago, sentoffagain2 said:

  With Fev not having a game i went and thought Dewsbury totally outplayed Widnes.Sykes who has ditched his 40 number and is back in a number 6 one organised well and his long pass set up Dewsbury's first try.Butterworth the hooker was a real box of tricks and had a superb game.I also liked Greensmith in the left centre and number 8 forward Becket.with Turner at scrum half doing the out of hand kicking he also played well.Widnes probably thought they would win without too much effort and Dewsburys work rate and spirit overwhelmed them.I enjoyed the game it's a tidy little ground.

Cheers appreciated 

Glad you had a good day out

We've something special this season

 

[Wakefield Ram]

Widnes were short of half backs and others but a great win for Dewsbury Rams

[Griff]

1 hour ago, Tubby said:

It wasn’t a criticism of the officials, merely an observation of my opinion on the ‘foul play’ after several replays. I can however see how you’d assume it was in this place…

In all honesty, I didn’t even notice the contact live, and had to replay several times to form an opinion, I also generally think we would be better allowing the on-field officials to make all decisions, without referral to a video ref and just accept that they can only give what they see. 

Video ref?

Today?

[Tubby]

23 minutes ago, Griff said:

Video ref?

Today?

No, in general. 

[Padge]

1 hour ago, Tubby said:

It wasn’t a criticism of the officials, merely an observation of my opinion on the ‘foul play’ after several replays. I can however see how you’d assume it was in this place…

In all honesty, I didn’t even notice the contact live, and had to replay several times to form an opinion, I also generally think we would be better allowing the on-field officials to make all decisions, without referral to a video ref and just accept that they can only give what they see. 

But fans won't accept that when a try is involved and cameras show it wasn't a try, you have to ban TV replays..

[Griff]

14 minutes ago, Tubby said:

No, in general. 

Well, all the games are reviewed after the weekend, so it might save a player from being sent off but he'll still be suspended.

Head injuries are in the news, criteria are changing, so get used to it. Having said that, I haven't seen Kirmond's challenge, so I make no comment on that and comment only generally.

[The Blues Ox]

Standard performance from Fax this season today, create enough chances to win a game in the first half and then fall asleep in the second and give the opposition a chance. Poor quality of game, pretty poor performance from Fax and really never looked like losing once we were in front but my god we need to up our standards.

[Tubby]

17 minutes ago, Griff said:

Well, all the games are reviewed after the weekend, so it might save a player from being sent off but he'll still be suspended.

Head injuries are in the news, criteria are changing, so get used to it. Having said that, I haven't seen Kirmond's challenge, so I make no comment on that and comment only generally.

I’m not entirely sure that’s germane to my point. Not all matches have a video ref and in my opinion, that means none should. Foul play missed by the on field officials may be picked up by this MRP.  This is no less incentive to avoid foul play.  I said nothing about attacks to the head going unpunished. In short, I’ve got ‘used to it’. 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Tubby

[Fevrover]

12 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

Standard performance from Fax this season today, create enough chances to win a game in the first half and then fall asleep in the second and give the opposition a chance. Poor quality of game, pretty poor performance from Fax and really never looked like losing once we were in front but my god we need to up our standards.

Should be a good game against Bull's and a decent crowd.

[tim2]

34 minutes ago, Griff said:

Well, all the games are reviewed after the weekend, so it might save a player from being sent off but he'll still be suspended.

Head injuries are in the news, criteria are changing, so get used to it. Having said that, I haven't seen Kirmond's challenge, so I make no comment on that and comment only generally.

It was contact to the head, from the blind side, with something around the elbow area. Not particularly late, maybe a fraction, and I think the intent was to hit Aston hard. Which is OK, but you'd better make sure you get it right. Kirmond didn't. As you say, this is the new normal, and in fact it may get stricter. 

[Tubby]

1 hour ago, Padge said:

But fans won't accept that when a try is involved and cameras show it wasn't a try, you have to ban TV replays..

I don’t mean to sound flippant, but hard luck. Fans don’t, and shouldn’t, dictate how the game is refereed. 

[Futtocks]

6 minutes ago, Tubby said:

Fans don’t, and shouldn’t, dictate how the game is refereed.

That really would be the fastest way to reintroduce the death penalty. But with all the players decomposing well before kick-off, you wouldn't have a game at all.

[Mumby Magic]

Scrappy first half for us, Midlands played well. Nice fans too. Turgot played. Happy with result obviously, here's to next Monday..... vs Fax.

[The Blues Ox]

1 hour ago, Mumby Magic said:

Scrappy first half for us, Midlands played well. Nice fans too. Turgot played. Happy with result obviously, here's to next Monday..... vs Fax.

Weird the timing because it was pretty much the same week last season where everyone had wrote Fax off and people started talking about Bradford. The win seemed to change our season and ruined Bradford's and this season seems very similar.