ATLANTISMAN Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Have just read an article on RL HUB by John Davidson has anyone else seen it * Nearly 500K in pay offs recently to staff * Broadcast revenue down 17% * Cash reserves down by 50% (Even after 11 million from sport England) * Decrease in money to clubs by £ 3 million * RFL director remuneration up by 50% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Have just read an article on RL HUB by John Davidson has anyone else seen it * Nearly 500K in pay offs recently to staff * Broadcast revenue down 17% * Cash reserves down by 50% (Even after 11 million from sport England) * Decrease in money to clubs by £ 3 million * RFL director remuneration up by 50% Turkeys carry on voting for Christmas - PRP is the only way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnStrike Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Turkeys carry on voting for Christmas - PRP is the only way What's PRP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 Someone has been building a nice little empire 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Someone has been building a nice little empire Just a single person Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Have just read an article on RL HUB by John Davidson has anyone else seen it * Nearly 500K in pay offs recently to staff * Broadcast revenue down 17% * Cash reserves down by 50% (Even after 11 million from sport England) * Decrease in money to clubs by £ 3 million * RFL director remuneration up by 50% Never invest in an organisation that looks like its run in the short-term interests of its senior staff. 1 Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RED ROOSTER Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, OnStrike said: What's PRP? Performance Related Pay Any link to this article Atlantisman? 1 1 Quote When the pinch comes the common people will turn out to be more intelligent than the clever ones. I certainly hope so. George Orwell You either own NFTs or women’s phone numbers but not both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 It is a slightly odd article, as though JD has just woken from a coma and wasn't aware of things like reduced TV deals. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Chopra Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Have just read an article on RL HUB by John Davidson has anyone else seen it * Nearly 500K in pay offs recently to staff * Broadcast revenue down 17% * Cash reserves down by 50% (Even after 11 million from sport England) * Decrease in money to clubs by £ 3 million * RFL director remuneration up by 50% I assume this is about the RFL results? We know all of this already, apart from the director remuneration. It was all in the pre-release they put out a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Toby Chopra said: I assume this is about the RFL results? We know all of this already, apart from the director remuneration. It was all in the pre-release they put out a few weeks back. Not sure they covered the payouts to leaving staff this time around but it's been covered before that a key way the RFL made a profit in recent years has been by reducing staff. If you'd like to link the STAGGERING LOSSES to the Attendance Thread, it's one of the reasons why the sport needs as big a crowd as possible as its marquee events - and why making excuses like Leigh is a small town (or previously a French team come from France) are not good enough. 2 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I haven't/can't read the article but as a general point whenever Rugby League journalists try to read a set of financial statements they mostly end up writing gibberish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I'm sure there is a video that would show Gledhill's precise unfiltered reaction to this news... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: I'm sure there is a video that would show Gledhill's precise unfiltered reaction to this news... His glass house must be full of holes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: I'm sure there is a video that would show Gledhill's precise unfiltered reaction to this news... Following on from Nigel Wood getting a big payoff too there is something seriously wrong. The sport simply isn't rich enough to keep handing out cash for nothing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 They certainly need to write better employment contracts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rhino Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, THE RED ROOSTER said: Performance Related Pay Any link to this article Atlantisman? https://inews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-leagues-1m-black-hole-bleak-reading-sport-urgent-change-2507070 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Thought this was going to be about the second half of Warrington’s season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I do think we are a little small-time when we focus on stuff like this. These two employees were operating at exec level and had been with the RFL for 12 and 14 years - of course they are going to be getting a decent payoff. None of that is any kind of endorsement of their employment in the first place, but the issue here is that we aren't generating enough money, not that we are meeting our employment requirements. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Let's be honest - the bigger story here is the huge increase in insurance costs that make up 75% of this annual loss. Head injuries and potential legal cases are the biggest risk to the game of RL and here we are seeing a very real impact - and in true RL style we focus on being outraged at exec wages and compensation. The story is right there - the game may have to change fundamentally due to head injuries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 of Us Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Why have the RFL board allowed the same situation occur again as happened at the end of the last CEO’s era. I was told that the reason RR got the gig in the first place was the fact that the sport could not afford to get rid of him and Nigel Wood at the same time. And yet here we are. £750,000 to the negative. Current CEO was another internal appointment after a world wide search. We wait in anticipation of a change of MO. 1 http://www.wiganstpats.org Producing Players Since 1910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, The 4 of Us said: Why have the RFL board allowed the same situation occur again as happened at the end of the last CEO’s era. I was told that the reason RR got the gig in the first place was the fact that the sport could not afford to get rid of him and Nigel Wood at the same time. And yet here we are. £750,000 to the negative. Current CEO was another internal appointment after a world wide search. We wait in anticipation of a change of MO. If you want to get rid of execs, it costs money. Particularly if they have been there a while. SLE found that our with Elstone, and we've seen it at plenty other governing bodies too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrewthehaggis Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Was it Max Weber's critique of bureaucracies (for that is what the RFL is) that contended that they should be expert led, enacting agreed neutral and beneficial rules for the welfare of the entity it represents? I know he spoke of bureaucracies forming "iron cages" which entrap an organization's individuals in the rational calculations of the paper chasers. More so contemporary observers point out how bureaucracy may be more self serving than the impartial Weberian administration. So looking at the figures complied by Davidson, it's hard to argue the RFL is actions are beneficial. Indeed I'd query whether it's current manifest is the right agency to lead the Sport. In fact the manner of the excessive pay offs (surely rewards for mediocrity) may push the conclusion that the RFL is arguably driven by its own desires than the wider Game. Sadly I can not see the necessary change. Like an obvious failed state, it's individual elements each are embedded with their own privelges, too fearful of reform less they lose out. Oh dear. Edited July 27, 2023 by idrewthehaggis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dave T said: If you want to get rid of execs, it costs money. Particularly if they have been there a while. SLE found that our with Elstone, and we've seen it at plenty other governing bodies too. If we didn't have a jobs for the boys recruitment system we wouldn't be appointing poor quality executives in the first place with years of middling roles behind them. Then it wouldn't be as expensive to get rid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Dave T said: Let's be honest - the bigger story here is the huge increase in insurance costs that make up 75% of this annual loss. Head injuries and potential legal cases are the biggest risk to the game of RL and here we are seeing a very real impact - and in true RL style we focus on being outraged at exec wages and compensation. The story is right there - the game may have to change fundamentally due to head injuries. Poor executive performance is directly linked to a lack of income to pay for increased insurance premiums. Every strategic decision for years has seen the game receive less and less income, whether that is through declining TV deals or the abject failure when it comes to the Challenge Cup final or internationals. The game not generating enough revenue is directly linked to the abject failure of the RFL leadership and it is only right this is questioned. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Damien said: If we didn't have a jobs for the boys recruitment system we wouldn't be appointing poor quality executives in the first place with years of middling roles behind them. Then it wouldn't be as expensive to get rid. Elstone cost more didn't he and he wasn't employed for years. It's just a cost of doing business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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