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  1. From the West Wales Facebook page: Much like Manchester, I sincerely hope that the Raiders get their chance in the Pro Pyramid. A third Pro Wales club does wonders for the Dragons player pool and continues to provide more derby opportunities for the Ironmen and Crusaders. Ideally the Cardiff Blues and Valley Cougars will join the mix as well (having previously expressed interest).
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  2. I'm not sure if this is the right place for this so here goes. When you become disillusioned with something you turn to something else, right ? Right or wrong it’s time for a change. What am I disillusioned about ? Football (or Soccer to my North American friends). Disillusioned with the fact that my local team that I have followed home and away as time and finances have allowed since I was knee high to a grasshopper charging £38 to sit in the worst seats in the stadium. To watch a team, a game where the directors and players have no respect for the fans or even themselves, a sport that shows no mercy in a money grabbing, cheating, rip off culture powered by the millions of pounds thrown at it by TV moguls. The players that couldn’t give a monkey’s about the club they play for or the fans that watch them and would sooner hold out for mega money from a bigger club or from another country without a second thought. It never used to be like this and I have seen and had enough. The not so 'beautiful' game has had enough out of me over the years and won't be receiving another penny. But what now is going to fill the void in my life that as always had an insatiable appetite for sport ? I do like boxing, but that is not something I can go to watch locally every other week of the year. Although I will continue to do so when cards are put on nearby. So how about Rugby League ? I’ve seen a few games myself in the distant past over the years, never fully understood it. The rules and positions take some getting into but it looks like a sport with a loyal following of fans and a largely un-spoilt culture. The players and clubs seem to come across OK and seem to care for both the game and the fans. The first thing that strikes me is that these big burly men have respect for the officials and the rules of the game. And you don’t see them rolling around on the floor as if they have been shot when an opposition player tackles them, so why not ? As I write this the new season is about to begin and that itself brings my first dilemma, who do I follow ? Locally to me are the Sheffield Eagles, that said they currently don’t play in Sheffield and currently reside in Wakefield until the new facilities are built. I do have ties currently with Huddersfield, so the Giants come on to the horizon too. Having done a little online research of both clubs for the coming season then the latter may be my choice for a rugby fix for now. Heck, I’ve even subscribed to a weekly rugby league paper to read up on what is going on. My first week coincided with the Bradford Bull’s administration wrangles and the up and the up and coming Canadian phenomena Toronto Wolfpack. I’ve downloaded plenty from Sky onto my planner and have even recorded and viewed some of the output on Premier Sports including the Wolfpack’s first preseason game. Is this the right time to be following the sport as the world changes around us ? Am I making the right decision, time will tell. It’s never too late to learn something new, even at the age of 48 and a half. I look forward to your comments..... please be kind
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  3. Rugby League goes Primal FOUNDED IN SEPTEMBER 2015, SOUTH LONDON SILVERBACKS ARE ALL SET FOR THEIR COMPETITIVE DEBUT IN 2017 AFTER 18 MONTHS OF CAREFUL PLANNING... SILVERBACKS' MIKE FARROW TELLS THEIR STORY. "After the Beckenham Bears had fizzled out due to moving out to East Surrey, the goal was to return Rugby League to the borough of Bromley and start afresh with a new branding and a new approach. The Bears had been successful to a point, but the club had never been able to put down real roots and had tried to run before it could walk - we felt that the club hadn't done itself or its players justice in the preceding three years. So the new committee put together a plan of action which excited players and administrators. The only spanner in the works was finding a suitable home. After an exhaustive search and two false starts, our self-imposed deadline for 2016 expired and we decided to put off starting until 2017. Shortly afterwards, our first choice ground became available at Club Langley in Beckenham. The delay proved to be a blessing in disguise as it allowed us to really get our ducks in a row. We have landed a highly-experienced Director of Rugby League in former Wigan Warriors player, Nigel Wright, whose depth of knowledge just astounds us. Our landlord is also incredibly supportive and views this as a multi-year project. We've already become part of their long-term plan, which is really encouraging. We have a contact book of great players who all just want a home ground to play at - ultimately, we're very positive about the season ahead. Pre-season starts on the 8th of February at 7:30pm Club Langley, Beckenham, BR3 3SR. We plan to start playing pre-season games in March with a home-and-away fixture already set up against the Sussex Merlins and we are also in the process of arranging a fixture against North Brussels Gorillas of Belgium RL in early May, which is an exciting and encouraging fixture for both of us." Any new players, no experience required, should report to Club Langley; 2 Hawksbrook Lane, Beckenham BR3 3SR every wednesday at 7.30pm For more information, visit slsilverbacks.com, contact slsilverbacks@gmail.com or drop them a message on Facebook, search: South London Silverbacks. Welcolme to the Troop
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  4. I dont think it has done anything with the media yet but I do think the positivity will take a big upturn. The RFL have always had plenty of stick but over the last year or so there has been a noticeable change in tge criticism the game has actually received. People going out of their way to try and find a golden era to compare to, or compare us to a comp on the other side of the world to bash our comp. I think a few things affected this. Firstly, the poor performances in the WCS last year gave us a bad start and gave plenty of ammo to those saying we are 10 years behind. Secondly I think the fans of the most successful SL era clubs werent having a great time - Leeds struggling, Saints no better than average, Bradford in bad shape and Wigan were even boring some of their own fans until their happy ending. It was ignored that the likes of Hull, Wire and Cas fans were enjoying their Rugby more than ever and certainly more than when those above dominated - but they are prominent and have a lot of fans with big voices. Finally - England and the 4N overall disappointed. It is one of the first times I was bored watching England tbh. Unfortunately I think those three things overshadowed the season when in reality we had one of the best CC Finals in recent memory with an iconic moment, a tense GF and a brilliant LLS showdown - plus Leigh got promoted and that MPG! There was actually brilliant entertainment left, righy and centre but many of our fans and media were telling each other and everyone else how rubbish it is and it used to be better. I personally thing last weekend was a massive shot in the arm for the game and in WC year that could he vital. Lets enjoy our RL people and get back to telling peoplr how awesome it is ratger than talking it down!
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  5. The picture is the thing that stuck in people's minds. Most people do not listen to politicians' interviews because they're, almost without exception, blowhards who wouldn't know an unequivocal promise if their lives depended on it. The picture was on front pages and was the backdrop to countless interviews, it was on flyers that came round my house, it was debated on Question Time, it was repeatedly mentioned and challenged as misleading but the Leave campaign, including our Foreign Minister as it's great blonde showman, persisted in using it, standing in front of those pictures, standing in front of that bus and using it at every opportunity. Then they won, and within an hour of that success it became someone else's fault it was used, it was never meant to be treated literally, it was dropped like a sharted pair of underwear. Billhooks, it was cynically and brutally used as a bludgeon by people who had no intention EVER of giving the NHS any money recovered from stopping EU contributions. You seriously are losing every bit of credibility by persisting with the daft tack of defending it.
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  6. Fev fans have pointed to the arrogance of Leigh fans when they were winning over the last few seasons and didn't like it.. A bit of humility wouldn't go amiss. Okay, we beat Batley and were the better team but last year they put us in our place so let's accept the win and move on
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  7. Many TRL members slag off the likes of Jonathan Davies, Chris irvine or Andy Wilson for being negative moaners. We also criticise other media know-nothings with their snouts in the Twickenham trough for putting down Rugby League whenever they can. Then I watch an exciting, if flawed, match tonight and most of the posts on this thread are nothing but misery, hole-picking and partisan sniping. Pot v kettle, mote v beam.
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  8. A little something to warm you up this cold morning. Rugby makes the front page of the i. "Rugby League goes east and west: plan to conquer Russia, USA and Canada". With a large article on the back page and a two page spread inside on the new season. All VERY positive. Say what you like it's the international dimension that raises the profile.
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  9. Big and positive news on the back of Dave Woods becoming the BBCs first rugby (league) correspondent. Finally we're getting the focus we deserve http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38757898
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  10. I think that the conclusion should be that the Toronto Wolfpack is being run like a professional sports organisation, which is not true of many Super League clubs.
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  11. Is it, really? Maybe its just me, but I think its awful. If it is intended to encourage fans of other sports to watch Rugby League, the last thing that's likely to appeal to them is a bloke shouting at them telling them their own favourite sport is garbage. Imagine that being done in reverse. The people praising this would be fuming that someone was disparaging Rugby League.
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  12. The work on the ground is essentially only the pitch,be a long time before that place is up to Championship standard or even Champ 1. It doesn't meet the criteria for Champ/1 so if no stands etc are built how could we go there. I wish the club would just sever all ties with it and announce something concrete for the future. Oldham's future does not belong at Whitebank,unless that is,people are happy with a 3g pitch and a shiny new fence round the paddock because that is all that has changed. Its a big fat no from me to ever return to a substandard ground for RL. Just for fun here is a link to the RFL minimum standards for grounds i....http://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/FACILITYSTANDARDS2016 final PDF.pdf Looking at that list of requirements strengthens my thoughts that there is a heck of a lot to do before anywhere near these standards are reached.Who would pay for all these facilities, one man and his dog watch AVRO so the existing stand would do them just fine,no impetus on them to do any redevelopment, the Council have fell out with us because we didn't pay the rent.We ain't exactly loaded. Stalybridge on the other hand meets all the criteria as far as I can see. Its a no brainer.Stay at the Fold and just bin Whitebank off.
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  13. Just a word of tribute to Matty as well . Great player , great stalwart and leader for us and will always be fondly remembered for his quality , workrate , contribution and sheer courage , often when playing bust up
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  14. Just thought it was worth mentioning on the General forum that Batley reached 500 junior season ticket holders Yesterday which is Massive for our club. and Today Sarah Fletcher of the Bulldogs womens team was selected to captain Yorkshire with 3 other Bulldogs in the squad. I know 3x8s isnt popular in some parts but the extra monies we won last season has really boosted the club. We have developed the ground even further with a new wrestle room and gym and improvements all around the mount. The squad is stronger than last season so super 8s again should be a strong possibility. All good at the Bulldogs
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  15. Welcome, there are a lot of rugby league fans who got into the sport because they lost their love for soccer. To get up to speed you should know and do the following: Know There is virtually no serious money in the game and the players are underpaid, therefore there are no money grabbing antics from the players. The only two moneygrabbers Sonny Bill Williams and Denny Solomona no longer play the game so you do not need to worry about them. The RFL is always wrong, and its chief Nigel Wood is incompetent. The England coach has to embody both these qualities. Ditto the refs. Winning the league is no big deal, unless by some chance your chosen team wins the league. Virtually all the players are down to earth and easy to relate to apart from the headcases at Leigh/Wigan/Leeds/Salford (delete as appropriate according to club allegiance). It is compulsory for every team to have someone called Burgess or Smith. If you travel more than 30 minutes to a game, this is classed as odd behaviour, the South of France is unbelievably exotic, and as for a trip to Toronto, are you kidding? The sport has the only true derby in the world, hours of fun can be had debating which fixture can be considered as the true derby depending whether your club is closer to the North Sea or Irish Sea. Do: Shout "Get them onside ref" at every conceivable opportunity. This will instantly make you seem knowledgeable about the rules of the game and earn the respect of your fellow fans. Though the action is non-stop, entertaining, skillful and full-blooded, it is important that at some stage you avert your attention from the game to count the number of empty seats. Have a beer or six at Magic Weekend in the company of fans from all the other clubs. However it is important to maintain the tradition that, though your excellent value ticket entitles you to watch all three games, you must immediately exit as soon as the final whistle sounds for your chosen club's game. Should you ever purchase a ticket for a Wigan game, you should understand that this only entitles you to watch 3/4 of the game. Please form an unreasonable attachment to a particular motorway in the North of England and insist that no development work should be carried out anywhere that is ten miles beyond this hallowed piece of tarmac. Invest in a magnifying glass to find the small paragraph that your national newspaper has written about your new favourite sport. Also if you intend to watch your sport on TV, you will need to stay up at unreasonable hours and tune your TV to channels you have never used before such as BBC Yorkshire or Premier Sports.
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  16. Actually "ran" is more accurate but I'm still aware of what's happening at the Chargers. The big round of funding a few years ago from SE was actually focused on the 13-16 age group and another load on volunteer co-ordinators. They spent a lot of money over 3 years and didn't see any real outcome so they cut it, tried to target different areas and now cut again as that didn't work. In my opinion: 1 This is a long term project that needs long term funding and we have to start with Primary RL. I mean 10-15 years. Long term planning is not this country's great strength. 2 We will always have the drop off at 16-20 and the only way to mitigate this is to have more juniors in the first place 3 The ethos and standards of junior RL need to be improved - it's a tough sport and we need all the kids playing to be happy. This may mean introducing tag/touch at post 11 for example in addition to full contact. Somehow facilities have to be improved too. 4 Tag and touch will not, in the main, translate to Open Age players but having such teams increases the size, demographics and atnosphere at the club. More volunteers for example. 5 We aren't an Olympic Sport and likely never will be. Therefore we have to optimize funding sources and be more evangelic about why the sport is going in a particular direction. 6 Relying on the government isn't going to work. The most successful participation event by miles (excuse the pun) is parkrun. Totally community based and volunteer led. RL will never be able to match that but what can it learn? 7 Some of the people being paid to do a job for the RFL have been woefully incompetent and/or too obsessed with NGB politics, not helped by equally incompetent amateur governing bodies. 8 Full contact Open Age is in trouble generally - people these days have many more options and it's a very tough sport. Employers are less tolerant of sports injuries plus you may be on a zero hour contract - do you want to risk that? I would support initiatives like the 5m offside at level 4, Masters RL and I would look very closely at the negative impact of the pro game on the community game in the last 10 years. Some of the policies around scholarships, dual reg and reserve sides / A teams have been disastrous IMO. Despite what they may tell you, RU is in trouble too - it's just less obvious for them as they have a bigger profile and numbers. I don't have silver bullet solutions and I also know there are some fantastic people working at all levels in our sport. We need charismatic, strong leadership and most of all (and nearly impossible to attain) UNITY about the way forward. Rant over.
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  17. IMO we are spending too much time debating the tries or not and the referees decisions. Let us be proud of two excellent English teams. And what brilliant entertainment it was on television
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  18. I'm a returned fan and I've not hidden behind that fact on here. I didn't stay away deliberately, I just moved away, played weekend sport myself and got out of the habit. Living in Leeds I'd look at fixtures and think that if Oldham were playing somewhere near like Hunslet, I'd go for a look-see. I always seemed to miss the fixtures though. What turned things for me was making a decision to go to a game and then actually doing it. I turned up not knowing a single player and within one half of rugby, whatever part of my brain used to enjoy watching the game completely switched back on. Why the heck had I not done this sooner. There must be a lot of people, Oldhamers, who just need a nudge. I find myself getting way too emotional when I see those red and white hoops on the field of play and when the team is busting a gut for us, I am so proud of being a Roughyed, a man from a Lancashire cotton-mill town. So what can we, regular Joe fans, do to improve the attendance figures? Nudge your mates I reckon. If every fan today put in a small effort and persuaded a mate to come along we'd double the attendance. You see "Bring a Mate" social media posts all a time but maybe that's a thing we should try. One person. Ring your cousin, bring your Dad, Mum, Sister, Son, Daughter, work mate, neighbour, drinking pal. It doesn't matter, just bring someone. I am enjoying watching this bunch of players wearing our famous colours as much as I did the teams of yesteryear. We may not be in Super League but to me that's irrelevant. I like my sport honest, honourable and passionate. We're getting that in spades.
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  19. The problem is it's becoming too easy for Super League clubs, the Aussies just aren't good enough so it's a hard sell 😉
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  20. Rant begins!! ... As has been said many times by many fans on here ..... we are just a half decent no7 away from a good team and ( if you get my meaning ) a good coach!! .... why can't we just fix it ..... DR could fix it .... just a few quid can fix it ... we don't need to mortgage the future ... just a bit of common sense and a bit of creative application will fix it!! ..... Its so obvious.. Glen must know ... Mark must know... everyone who watches the team knows!!!! .. So why are we doing nothing about it?? ..... as I see it we don't have a single specialist scrum half at the club .. Andy Kain is a stand off!! James Glover is a stand off!! ..... any other suggestions??? Please Please see the solution and ..... just fix it!! ....then we will win a few games ... Glen will get his halo back!! ... its not rocket science!! Rant over!!
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  21. When I was a lot younger and went to family weddings my aunts took great delight in pinching my cheek and saying "your turn next" Apparently it's not funny when I do it back to them at funerals now.
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  22. I'm still Remoaning because I can't get beyond the fact we've been sold a pup by liers and spivs, you can split hairs all you like about the £350 million, but the pictures are there for all to see. I'm not bought into the future, because I don't think a vision of Brexit Britian has been sold, not much has been done to kajol and convince the 48% to buy into Brexit, quite the opposite infact, the attidude seems to be "we won, you lost, suck it up buttercup and for the love of god stop whinging". For some of us there has also been a very here and now kick in the nuts since the vote, mainly due to the currency, which hasn't quite confined my wifes business to the knackers yard, but its at the gates pondering if it should go in or not, pre-vote, it'd had been growing nicely for the 5 years she's had it, overnight price rises of between 15 and 25% from suppliers are challenging. I also remain concerned that its the poor and vunerable in society who are going to bear the brunt just as they have with austerity since 2010, I've seen this first hand and the powers that be are far more skilled now in saving a few quid than they were in the early years of austerity! I also don't like the general direction of UK politics, it feels like all sides are heading to the extremes, Labour to the left, Tories to the right, SNP to the exit, Lib Dems down a black hole!
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  23. I may be naive but cannot understand how people might expect the RFL to organise trips to France for club games. Most of us manage to organise foreign holidays nowadays without relying upon Red Hall, so Toulouse shouldn't be too much of a stretch I would have thought.
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  24. Just getting the clan together before setting off in search of glory... still buzzing from last night: - Wire's spine looks fantastic. Indeed their balance generally looked perfect - players playing in their best positions; - they did this without Hill and Ratchford! - the HJ is one of the best looking and best sounding grounds we have in our game, especially for a big evening match; - after having been the best team in the country last year, it was fitting that they should lead the way: they were also superb 2 years ago. They did the game proud and - I hope we learn and see suitably inspired to throw everything from all angles at the Sharks.
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  26. Maybe you should stop trying to present yourself as the authentic voice of the entire working class too. You speak for yourself. No one else.
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  27. I'm hooked.... thoroughly enjoyed my freezing cold visit to Wakefield for the Eagles v Toulouse game and also the last 30 minutes of the Trinity v Hull game too. I must admit to not having understood everything that went on and some of the referee decisions but with thanks to the Eagles fans and a very clued up guy who had hung on after the Trinity game my knowledge and understanding is a little better. Thank you to them and a very special thank you to the 'illustrious' Angelic Cynic a member of this forum who I met on Friday lunchtime for a chat about the club and the game in general. Not deterred by the weather conditions or not being able to recognise the mud covered players I will be back in Wakefield a week on Sunday for the game v. Batley. Thank you all once again on this forum for taking time out to explain things and offer words of encouragement.
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  29. The Rugby Union had the bottle to maintain their integrity with the news that they have, as the article says "RFU kicks Exiles out of the game." London Welsh, a club with a great tradition and had players such as JPR Williams, Gerald Davies and Mervyn Davies are no more. They, like Bradford, went into administration owing £250,000. They asked for another week to work with a consortium the RFU said no. They have no right of appeal and all of their results have been expunged. The big argument with Bradford was it was too close to the beginning of the season to change things what a load of spinelessness. I can only congratulate the RFU for doing the right thing for their sport and its members.
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  30. I don't think it is the BBC people need to thank for making Dave Woods their first dedicated RL correspondent. Surely we should thank the Parliamentary RL Group who summoned the BBC's top brass to Parliament following some really shabby coverage of RL on the BBC a year ago. The RL MPs accused the BBC of turning an institutional blind eye to RL, and news presenters of being patronizing towards the game. They said it was "disgraceful" that a recent England victory over NZ was not mentioned in news bulletins. Said it was unacceptable to use the term Rugby in news bulletin when they mean RU etc. Shortly after the rollicking the BBC announced that they were going to review their RL coverage and they would appoint a RL correspondent in a years time. And here we are http://www.apprlg.org.uk/mps-and-peers-question-bbc-on-how-the-corporation-sees-and-covers-rugby-league/
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  31. Afternoon (or evening for most of you) Just saying Hi. originally from Essex, been in Toronto for 23 years and am quite excited at the Wolfpack and upcoming season. we have a fairly decent team by the looks of it and should be competitive. Toronto is a fun city to hang out in and welcoming to travelling fans..... Got my tickets for the home opener against Oxford at Lamport (Toronto)
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  32. The 558 inside Bower Fold today against London provided the best atmosphere in there for a while, the Sheffield crowd was 668 so we lost 110 people from todays attendance. That's dire, London brought maybe 30,Sheffield around 50 where the hell were all the Oldham fans today (roughly a drop of 90/100 home fans)?? Our attendances should be rising not falling with the way we are playing, many people claim to support this club but it seems like no matter what we do as a club the fans stay away. This team and club deserve at least a 1000 home fans every home game. Why are the attendances so poor? The passion from the fans and the players was second to none today, what else can the club do to increase attendances, its not exactly the dearest club in the league to support. Anybody have any reasons why we don't get at least a 1000 per game, looking at FB and other social media everyone wants to comment but doesn't actually go. These lads deserve better. What can the club do to increase crowds? We have a great side in a lovely stadium,cheap (ish) prices compared to other teams/sports. Support this club or we are in danger of losing it eventually because of apathy towards not playing in Oldham etc. The fact is like it or not we have a superb Oldham side playing not that far out of Oldham.those that stay away are missing some of the best RL we have played in a long time. Every person who claims to love this club should make every effort to get to Bower Fold for the Dewsbury game, if 500 odd Oldham fans can create an atmosphere like today imagine what it could be with 1000 Oldham fans roaring this side on.
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  34. Brilliant win by Warringtn but good on the Broncos for actually putting their hands up to come over here and play the match.
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  35. I've said for years that the way to beat Aussie teams is to keep moving the ball around and being off-the-cuff in attack. For decades we have tried to out do them at their own game which is ridiculous. Wire showed last night that if you get away from all of this "structured attack" sphericals and just play what you see then they are beatable as the NRL robots are only programmed to play one way. Well done Wire for not only their victory but also the manner of it playing refreshing attacking rugby that had the NRLbots completely bemused in the first half.
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  36. There is one professional North American team. The rest, at this moment in time, do not exist and there no concrete plans in place for their formation, simply other people's wishes. If and when these other teams eventuate we have a thread. Until that happens there isn't a "problem".
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  37. "Liverpool Away Matches 1988/1989"
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  38. Also you need to consider the TEAM aspects of this. You and your mate work alongside each other, he is a bit more experienced and is the Team Leader. He gets £14 per hour and you get £10 per hour and you accept this difference because of the responsibility. A rival Company offers him £40 per hour to leave and your Company matches this to keep him. He is now on 4 times your rate doing the same job. Your thoughts as part of the team? Your motivation to continue is? I addition please accept that there is a Salary Cap and we are spending up to it. We are not impoverished and I am sure that there are 3 or 4 clubs below us in spending terms. We are spending what WE ARE ALLOWED and what WE CAN AFFORD. If anyone can offer a substantial increase in our Income (Or a suitable Guarantee) we will increase the spending to the allowed level. Even if you 'Run the risk' there is no guarantee of success. We have to manage with what we have, the Coach was given a Budget, has the players that he wanted to sign and he has to make the situation work.
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  39. Ha we can top that! See the next two Bulldogs home games with your Giants season ticket against Fev & Swinton for £10
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  40. Immense effort today from the Yeds, arguably the best away performance for a long time. Defence was outstanding. Unlucky in a swirling wind and sub zero temps we didn't get at least a draw with Leatherbarrows missed conversion. Fabulous performance against a side tipped for the top 4. Well done the Yeds. Proud of you all.
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  41. When caveman Trevor the terrible started to develop the wheel in his cave in Batley,it took time to mould and change into what we have today,the same applies to what's going on at the club at the moment, an evolution into something better with strong foundations, I expect that when all the work is completed around the ground that then the priority of the team comes first,this current chapter is closing..it's not been the best chapter by far,we've a scoreboard, a lovely terrace,financial security, income streams from the car boot,football pitches, bars & function rooms...so let's draw some positive's from them..I'm hoping that when morrison departs a serious effort is made to join the club up again and all get back on the same page..together Marks getting there and I wouldn't swop him for the world Things that NEED to evolve Just take a little time to.get right
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  42. The article in the Chron refers to the fact that the work WILL see the return of ORLFC to Whitebank. Hmmm cant see how that can be with no stands etc planned as yet, the ground wont meet Championship standards even with a 3G pitch etc that's not to say that it wont have in the future but for the foreseeable I cant see how we could go back there even next season. Residents around there are up in arms about the times the new pitch will be in use, cant imagine they would be right happy with new stands etc being built there.There would have to be more turnstiles installed,proper toilets etc, cant see all that happening at a very low amateur football level tbh. (No disrespect to AVRO) Now the point is this, if/when Oldham RL return to Oldham will it increase crowds substantially in a ground that was mooted to be wrong side of town etc? Will the naysayers return to a revamped Whitebank because its in Oldham? Is the revamped Whitebank going to be a better deal for the club than BF? Do the club give up on a great ground (with cover,more turnstiles, catering outlets,toilets) just to say we play in Oldham? Bower Fold is pretty perfect for RL in my opinion, pity we cant pick it up and drop it on Higgy Gas Works lol. Lots of stuff to be done I fancy before Whitebank is fit for Championship RL, i would write Whitebank off and stay at Stalybridge for a while and foster links with the folk of Tameside to attempt to increase crowds as well as more visible marketing in Oldham, without proper seating/terracing Whitebank is a non starter for me.
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  43. "Relegation favourites Bradford Bulls welcome Championship topping Rochdale Hornets to Odsal looking for a shock win to kick start their season" Never thought I'd ever type that sentence. Might never get the chance to type that sentence again. Cheers.
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  44. This money (£25,000 per player or greater sometimes) would be better spent employing development officers promoting the game throughout the country. Long term its short sighted and only lines the pocket of players and their greedy agents. NRL or Union clubs can still throw an extra £50,000 on salarys to tempt them away.
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  45. Over the years, I've been cross enough to take to the streets about quite a few things, from vivisection to racism, student loans to Palestine. Here's the news: I only protested about one thing at a time. And here's more news: I protested about the one thing at the time that the one thing was a very pressing issue. I never smashed anything up or saw anyone I was with smashing things up. The most radical it got was a hotly-worded chant (rather nifty as some of them were). None of the marches I've been on were about hate or intimidation or fear. Nobody felt frightened or hated or excluded. Most were like a party on the move. And yet sometimes those marches worked. We got those in authority to change their minds, by showing them that hundreds/thousands/millions of people felt strongly enough to take time out and stand together to be heard. We're lucky we can do this in the UK. Agree or disagree, marching for a (non-hate) political cause doesn't make you a snowflake or a radical or a hooligan or a thug or a leftie or a facist. It doesn't make you anti-democratic - it's democracy IN ACTION. It doesn't mean you don't care about other stuff that's going on, or that happened in the past, or that might possibly happen next week. It means that today, in this situation, you got up, showed up and stood up and it's to be applauded. Most people who do this are also campaigning on other issues too - either on the street or in other ways. It doesn't matter if you personally agree with the issue or not. Peaceful political action is to be applauded. And if you don't want people in the UK to be able to walk down the street with a few banners, a loudhailer and some corny chants, then have a strong word with yourself.
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  46. I'm not having that, my friend. The insults are dished out on here from all sides, it is pathetic and it is tiresome for the mods to have to deal with it. We cannot win whatever we do. Six of one, half a dozen of the other, everyone being over sensitive that when anyone disagrees with their own world view. Have you reported such insults that have then not been dealt with? I have no record of that. And if you don't report insults, don't complain if they are not actioned by the mods. Don't make the mistake of thinking we have time to read every post on here. Personally I swerve this entire thread as much as possible. The only time I look now is when a reported post comes in. I am insulted that you imply I do not apply the rules fairly on this forum due to my personal political beliefs. I believe all available evidence proves otherwise. If I closed people down because I disagree with them personally, this forum would be very quiet, believe me. I'd suggest to everyone taking part in this and the other political threads in AOB to grow a thicker skin or stick to the Rugby League sections, because I am getting heartily sick and tired of having to moderate personal squabbles on here and I'm fairly sure ckn feels the same.
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  47. http://www.rugby-league.com/challengecup/article/39237/bbc-to-show-early-challenge-cup-rounds Cracking news
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  48. I've never seen a Tesco ad saying Sainsburys is garbage, no. I've never seen a Gillette ad saying Wilkinson Sword razors are blunt. They don't rubbish the competition, they sell the virtues of their own products. Why can't Rugby League just do that? If it's the best sport there is, just show people why. No need at all to even mention other sports IMO. It's chippy and unattractive.
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  49. this game has brightened my day, firstly its great to see rugby on the telly again - this, along with the karalius cup game and the other pre season friendlies, reminds me that its not long now to the start of the season (what are we, 2 or 3 weeks away now?). Secondly, this Toronto team didn't look bad at all and are a great tonic to the doom n gloom that's been spouted of late, here's hoping they grow as a club and inspire fresh blood in terms of fans and players on the other side of the pond
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  50. Complaining about the attendance at a pre-season friendly including a brand-new team that is unlikely to have much travelling support due to the distances involved. What a thoroughly Rugby League comment!
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