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24 Aug: Coral Challenge Cup Final: St Helens v Warrington Wolves KO 3pm (BBC)

Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • St Helens by 13 points or more
      45
    • St Helens by 7 to 12 points
      21
    • St Helens by 1 to 6 points
      2
    • Warrington Wolves by 1 to 6 points
      8
    • Warrington Wolves by 7 to 12 points
      2
    • Warrington Wolves by 13 points or more
      1

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Saints look like a team who have just realised plan A isn’t working and don’t have a plan B. Be interesting to see if Holbrook can sort them out at half time.


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Terrible attendance, looks really bad for me, top two teams in the game and struggling to get 50k. A long time ago, but 84k for Featherstone v Hull. How the times have changed.

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Leave aside Hicks denying one certain try for Saints and then gifting Wire another by declaring a Wire knock on was actually a new set for them, Saints are choking. 

I’m sat in the Gods, almost watching the match from a plan view it feels like at times. Saints are not at the races. The structure we’ve seen all season as the ball goes to Lomax/Fages with Coote linking in, just isn’t there. Lots and lots of one-man rugby. We’re really not challenging the Wire defence, and it’s really apparent from this view that we’re not creating overlaps or space. 

 

With a 2 score lead, Warrington have won this. They’ll knock a DG over early in the second half is my bet, and Saints haven’t hit 3 scores in them today unless a different team comes out in the second half. 

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28 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said:

If it had got up for a "No try" then I don't see the video ref overturning it.  He plapped at the side of ball. I'd call it a bounce.

Yes, it would have been better to go to the screen but I agree that, depending on from which angle you look, it could seem as though the player slid his hand down the side of the ball and not actually touched it down.

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Looking at Hicks positioning at the Knowles no try , he was essentially straight behind it , and we haven't seen  a TV angle from behind or front on ( as far as I can recall ) , just maybe Hicks has seen daylight between the hand and the ball on contact on the ground , Knowles hand was sliding down the side of the ball as it was going down , maybe we are all in the wrong ?

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1 minute ago, Gooleboy said:

Terrible attendance, looks really bad for me, top two teams in the game and struggling to get 50k. A long time ago, but 84k for Featherstone v Hull. How the times have changed.

Would've been sold out if Bernard had been giving out the cup .

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That year 7 Great Sankey halfback should have been in the Warrington first team.   Imagine him kicking to Toby King all day...

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2 minutes ago, Roy Haggerty said:

Leave aside Hicks denying one certain try for Saints and then gifting Wire another by declaring a Wire knock on was actually a new set for them, Saints are choking. 

I’m sat in the Gods, almost watching the match from a plan view it feels like at times. Saints are not at the races. The structure we’ve seen all season as the ball goes to Lomax/Fages with Coote linking in, just isn’t there. Lots and lots of one-man rugby. We’re really not challenging the Wire defence, and it’s really apparent from this view that we’re not creating overlaps or space. 

 

With a 2 score lead, Warrington have won this. They’ll knock a DG over early in the second half is my bet, and Saints haven’t hit 3 scores in them today unless a different team comes out in the second half. 

You can't leave it aside though. Once again a ref is having massive say in a final with wrong calls.

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1 minute ago, Roy Haggerty said:

Leave aside Hicks denying one certain try for Saints and then gifting Wire another by declaring a Wire knock on was actually a new set for them, Saints are choking. 

I’m sat in the Gods, almost watching the match from a plan view it feels like at times. Saints are not at the races. The structure we’ve seen all season as the ball goes to Lomax/Fages with Coote linking in, just isn’t there. Lots and lots of one-man rugby. We’re really not challenging the Wire defence, and it’s really apparent from this view that we’re not creating overlaps or space. 

 

With a 2 score lead, Warrington have won this. They’ll knock a DG over early in the second half is my bet, and Saints haven’t hit 3 scores in them today unless a different team comes out in the second half. 

Every time I see that "try" its clear for me that it was no try. He flapped at the side of the ball.

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