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Sat 5 Oct: Championship - Play-off Final: Toronto Wolfpack v Featherstone Rovers KO 7.30pm (TV)

Who will win?  

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great listen for those that haven't heard it yet. Wilkins talks about how Fev are the closest thing to a SL team which is what a few posters have highlighted on here with the fast pace vs Toulouse.

We're still winning, we beat SL Leeds last year away so Leeds light won't hold us back. 😉 

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28 minutes ago, hrtbps said:

How good would a regular (competitive) Fev-Cas derby be?

Probably end up being 5 times a year like all the other derbies and everyone will get bored.

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2 hours ago, Celt said:

I really hope you are right, but watching Featherstone's game last weekend, they were crudely very effective by getting off the line extremely quick, and coming up hard in a way that a lot of SuperLeague sides don't even do.  This seemed to really unsettle Toulouse, who couldn't handle it, and then regressed into trying to play basketball style RL.  Factor in the inevitable snarling aggressive pack of fans who follow them about brandishing Rangers flags etc, and they can create an atmosphere that is quite intimidating for opposition teams and supporters alike.  

As you point out, Wolfpack should be firm favourites, but I definitely don't think this is a done deal yet.

That must have been painful for you, complimenting us like that. 

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1 hour ago, NERugbyDad said:

I thought the team was based in the UK and only went out to Toronto for the games or have they been staying out there for the playoffs?

Hopefully they will be homesick for Manchester!

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46 minutes ago, hrtbps said:

That must have been painful for you, complimenting us like that. 

Not at all.  Your play off results speak for themselves - Featherstone are a very difficult team to play against, and even worse if the opposition are not mentally ready for what is coming.


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7 hours ago, MyMrsWouldPreferSinfield said:

The entire Rugby League community wants Fev to win,

They definitely don't.  

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36 minutes ago, Celt said:

They definitely don't.  

Well you've certainly made it clear you don't! 

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8 hours ago, MyMrsWouldPreferSinfield said:

The entire Rugby League community wants Fev to win

You’re assuming a lot there, I for one want to see a comprehensive Toronto victory, I believe I’m not alone in that wish 

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5 hours ago, Celt said:

I really hope you are right, but watching Featherstone's game last weekend, they were crudely very effective by getting off the line extremely quick, and coming up hard in a way that a lot of SuperLeague sides don't even do.  This seemed to really unsettle Toulouse, who couldn't handle it, and then regressed into trying to play basketball style RL.  Factor in the inevitable snarling aggressive pack of fans who follow them about brandishing Rangers flags etc, and they can create an atmosphere that is quite intimidating for opposition teams and supporters alike.  

As you point out, Wolfpack should be firm favourites, but I definitely don't think this is a done deal yet.

Was it the Union Jack flag? 

I think that was there because they were an English side playing in France. 

 

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9 hours ago, MyMrsWouldPreferSinfield said:

The entire Rugby League community wants Fev to win, that might just spur them on to something special.

That’s not true, a poll on another thread shows 2/3 of fans want Toronto Wolfpack to win 

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8 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

That’s not true, a poll on another thread shows 2/3 of fans want Toronto Wolfpack to win 

 

1 hour ago, Phil said:

You’re assuming a lot there, I for one want to see a comprehensive Toronto victory, I believe I’m not alone in that wish 

Maybe not alone, but the overwhelming majority are hoping for a Fev win. Isn't that what we like over here, we love the underdog.

Ignoring the entire debate regarding the merits of the value of either side on SL (as directed at the top of the thread) most fans I've interacted with are chuffed for Fev and the run they have been on.

In the same way London and latterly Salford have been everyone's second team this year too.

Unless you're a pie fan, everyone will be cheering for Salford this week. 

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49 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

That’s not true, a poll on another thread shows 2/3 of fans want Toronto Wolfpack to win 

Want or think? 

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1 hour ago, Niels said:

Was it the Union Jack flag? 

I think that was there because they were an English side playing in France. 

 

I didn't see any English flags which was surprising

 

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2 hours ago, Niels said:

Was it the Union Jack flag? 

I think that was there because they were an English side playing in France. 

 

It was a Rangers flag. 


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4 hours ago, Celt said:

It isn't just the fast pace that Leeds Res generate, but also their effectiveness at turning the player in the tackle, winning the wrestle and stopping a quick PTB.  Toulouse were totally unable to generate any momentum, as they were snuffed out at the tackle, lost collisions (or certainly did not win them convincingly) and their ball carriers were ineffective on the floor.  

Toronto will doubtless have studied the game, but they will need to really work hard in the collision area in order to generate any kind of speed in their PTBs.  A strong ref would help too, but Featherstone were very good at playing right on the line in terms of time taken getting off the tackled player, which probably meant that even with a very strong ref, they would not have been penalised too many times.

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Then if our brave Canadian boys turn it around on them we give each of the fellas a matching, extra large, diamond ring!

Works every time.

Wilken will just play his heart out!

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4 hours ago, Celt said:

Toronto will doubtless have studied the game, but they will need to really work hard in the collision area in order to generate any kind of speed in their PTBs.  A strong ref would help too, but Featherstone were very good at playing right on the line in terms of time taken getting off the tackled player, which probably meant that even with a very strong ref, they would not have been penalised too many times.

Fev are conceding far less penalties than they were earlier in the season, since they took ex-referee Dave Merrick on board as part of their coaching staff. Dave knows the game inside out but also knows the laws of the game and how other referees interpret them. He will know how Chris Kendall conducts the game and instruct the players accordingly.

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5 minutes ago, Steve Slater said:

Fev are conceding far less penalties than they were earlier in the season, since they took ex-referee Dave Merrick on board as part of their coaching staff. Dave knows the game inside out but also knows the laws of the game and how other referees interpret them. He will know how Chris Kendall conducts the game and instruct the players accordingly.

Interesting. I really thought in the last game, that they were playing right on the limit, but getting away with it. Probably due to Dave Merrick advising them as you say.


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1 hour ago, POR said:

what's a rangers flag

A flag with a great big Rangers crest on it. You see them brandished at BNP rallies and the like.


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8 minutes ago, Celt said:

A flag with a great big Rangers crest on it. You see them brandished at BNP rallies and the like.

It's probably because they have the same colours, blue and white. 

 

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Desperate for a Toronto victory, was gutted it wasn't a match v Toulouse. The best outcome for the game would be an expansion to 14 with London staying up and the 2 best teams in the Championship Toronto and Toulouse joining them


Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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Just now, nec said:

Desperate for a Toronto victory, was gutted it wasn't a match v Toulouse. The best outcome for the game would be an expansion to 14 with London staying up and the 2 best teams in the Championship Toronto and Toulouse joining them

I'm glad your not in charge.

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