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Since 2017, Papua New Guinea, Fiji and Tonga have all beaten “tier 1” nations, and in Tonga’s case, have beaten all three of them. For the international game to succeed, it is essential that there is greater uncertainty in results. Whilst often criticised, the NRL’s introduction of an international weekend in June is a huge fillip to the sport.

The pacific nations are now bearing fruit as a result of greater inclusion in the domestic Australian game and more regular international fixtures. To remove the Great Britain hat for a moment and place on the whole game hat, this autumn’s internationals do have positives to take from them.

But for Britain...yep almost no positives aside from a likely return for a mid season test and more regular in-season camps.

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I thought Josh Jones did alright, after an iffy first game. Not sure why he wasn’t there today. Philbin too did ok. Wasn’t sure either could step up but they didn’t look out of place. 

Hastings was the biggest disappointment for me, I’m just not sure what his role was in the team and it didn’t look like he did either. The spine of the team didn’t click at all which is a real worry as I’m not sure who we’ll be going in with next year, let alone 2021. Williams passing looks shocking at times. If we had everyone fit, I’d probably go with Lomax and Widdop with Hardaker or Tomkins at full back. Perhaps Jack Walker or Jake Trueman will put pressure on over the next couple of years 

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8 minutes ago, DoubleD said:

I thought Josh Jones did alright, after an iffy first game. Not sure why he wasn’t there today. Philbin too did ok. Wasn’t sure either could step up but they didn’t look out of place. 

Hastings was the biggest disappointment for me, I’m just not sure what his role was in the team and it didn’t look like he did either. The spine of the team didn’t click at all which is a real worry as I’m not sure who we’ll be going in with next year, let alone 2021. Williams passing looks shocking at times. If we had everyone fit, I’d probably go with Lomax and Widdop with Hardaker or Tomkins at full back. Perhaps Jack Walker or Jake Trueman will put pressure on over the next couple of years 

Yeh after looking pretty good on paper I’d say the halves was the biggest disappointment . Just never gelled or got any control or direction going . Couldn’t get the back line going and the end to sets from guys who’s stock in trade it is was really shocking 

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5 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Yeh after looking pretty good on paper I’d say the halves was the biggest disappointment . Just never gelled or got any control or direction going . Couldn’t get the back line going and the end to sets from guys who’s stock in trade it is was really shocking 

They just never seemed to work in tandem or take control out there. They seemed to work in isolation on their own sides of the pitch, which then made it easy for the defence to pick off because there were fewer combinations possible 

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1 hour ago, DavidM said:

Yeh after looking pretty good on paper I’d say the halves was the biggest disappointment . Just never gelled or got any control or direction going . Couldn’t get the back line going and the end to sets from guys who’s stock in trade it is was really shocking 

The end of sets was vapid to say the least. Either a pointless dig at the line or a rubbish kick with no real chase.... Awful 

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1 hour ago, Celt said:

One positive is that It does show the emergence of PNG as a viable top level test team.

For a country of relative midgets, steeped in poverty, they have done really well to tap into the right athletes (Oz based pros etc) and looked a good bit bigger today than in previous years. (I have noticed this trend with their teams since about 2013)

They hammered the English in that second half, and if they continue to improve should become at least one of the teams who at least influences/impacts World Cups etc.

Oz based pros... that's so ignorant to the development of native players I have ever heard!!!

Go research the hunters!!

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14 minutes ago, Celt said:

It is not ignorant at all.  This year they have used the 2 boys from Souths, Russell in the 2nd row and Olam from Melbourne, among others who I can't think of off the top of my head.  They also used David Mead, who was with the Titans for years.  I was referring to the fact that they have used bigger players over recent seasons, some of whom are australian based.  In previous decades, they struggled as most of their players were tiny.

I am well aware of the Hunters.  i have no idea what your point is.  They have brought through some good players - I did not say otherwise.  There were hardly any Hunters players in the squad today though as far as I saw.  Perhaps you know otherwise?

I appreciate you are sore after yet another english humiliation, but calm it down a bit.  You were absolutely leathered in the second half by a mixture of a few pros, and some hungry part timers.  At the end of the day, we are both trying to credit PNG with moving in the right direction. 

Incidentally...

"that's so ignorant to the development of native players I have ever heard!!!"  

your squealing doesn't actually make any grammatical sense.  I can understand it, but that's about it.

 

Players like the Boas and Albert brothers, Olam, Puara and Amean may not be Hunters players now, but that's where they first caught the eye of their current clubs.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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50 minutes ago, Celt said:

Yes, absolutely. No argument there.

I was just remarking that very few of their current team play for the Hunters, from what I could see anyway.

Plenty more will come from the Hunters, no matter where they end up. That was one of the objectives of the SPH project. No more occasional one-offs like Adrian Lam or Marcus Bai, but a real production line of chunky blokes who enjoy flamboyant attacking play and turning opposition players into steak tartare.

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23 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Plenty more will come from the Hunters, no matter where they end up. That was one of the objectives of the SPH project. No more occasional one-offs like Adrian Lam or Marcus Bai, but a real production line of chunky blokes who enjoy flamboyant attacking play and turning opposition players into steak tartare.

Ideally that’s how it should be as well. Hunters as a nursery for talent that then goes and blossoms at a higher level. They’ve been a real success story.

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38 minutes ago, Tex Evans Thigh said:

Ideally that’s how it should be as well. Hunters as a nursery for talent that then goes and blossoms at a higher level. They’ve been a real success story.

Plus, stand by for the next-generation wave of Fijian talent, when their club starts in the NSW competition.

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