Wakefield Trinity plans submision

[dboy]

4 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

If I were you or anyone else I'd look at Trinity's decision to go with a hybrid pitch as a clue as to how this is going to go. It was nailed on as a 4G pitch until a month or so ago. The Football League have not yet approved 4G pitches as far as I'm aware.

???

Don't think you meant to quote me...

[Kirmonds pouch]

On 21/08/2022 at 08:32, Spidey said:

They want a football club to come on board and take over?

Why would a non league football team take over?

 

I know where you are coming from and the issues with sharing, Hudds and Hull to name but two.

However Trinity own the stadium outright, other than effectively having a mortgage. So any team, not just a football team would be purely renting. I can't see any reason why Trinity would ever sell the ground or even share it tbh. However the rent from a tenant would go some way to paying said mortgage, or better still paying it off far quicker.

Let's use Wakefield FC as an example, who are currently renting at Fev. They are ambitious but I don't think they believe they will ever be a Premiership team. However if they reach the pinnacle of non League which is a more realistic aim they need a stadium and especially a pitch that will allow them to play top flight opposition, most notably in the FA cup, the real cash cow for such clubs.

No offence but Fev's pitch wouldn't be acceptable to any major football team or the professional leagues, so home advantage would be lost and no cup runs  or promotion etc.

Sure, Trinity would need to stay solvent and thus in control for the ground and not actually share for the best result. But in truth if Trinity failed the first club circling the BV would be WFC anyway, so it make no odds.

[Kirmonds pouch]

23 hours ago, dboy said:

???

Don't think you meant to quote me...

Don't think I did, by blob.

[dboy]

57 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Don't think I did, by blob.

Well then you've lost me.

You replied to my post about the old floodlights/North Stand roof, with something about the new pitch.

Whatever point you are trying to make, you're not making it.

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

Why would a non league football team take over?

 

I know where you are coming from and the issues with sharing, Hudds and Hull to name but two.

However Trinity own the stadium outright, other than effectively having a mortgage. So any team, not just a football team would be purely renting. I can't see any reason why Trinity would ever sell the ground or even share it tbh. However the rent from a tenant would go some way to paying said mortgage, or better still paying it off far quicker.

Let's use Wakefield FC as an example, who are currently renting at Fev. They are ambitious but I don't think they believe they will ever be a Premiership team. However if they reach the pinnacle of non League which is a more realistic aim they need a stadium and especially a pitch that will allow them to play top flight opposition, most notably in the FA cup, the real cash cow for such clubs.

No offence but Fev's pitch wouldn't be acceptable to any major football team or the professional leagues, so home advantage would be lost and no cup runs  or promotion etc.

Sure, Trinity would need to stay solvent and thus in control for the ground and not actually share for the best result. But in truth if Trinity failed the first club circling the BV would be WFC anyway, so it make no odds.

Clubs aren't allowed to switch cup fixtures, they have to play at their league venue.

For what it's worth, if Wakefield AFC were to climb through the divisions - and I don't think people realise quite how far down the pyramid they actually are - then you'd expect them to invest in their pitch accordingly.

[Kirmonds pouch]

51 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Clubs aren't allowed to switch cup fixtures, they have to play at their league venue.

For what it's worth, if Wakefield AFC were to climb through the divisions - and I don't think people realise quite how far down the pyramid they actually are - then you'd expect them to invest in their pitch accordingly.

They haven't got a pitch, they haven't even got a training pitch, they have nothing to develop. They are totally dependent on Featherstone at present. BV is there only avenue to any kind of higher future.

You are correct in regards to their position. I think it take them a decade of unbridled success to get to the top of the lower leagues let alone the pro game. However that doesn't stop them being a nice fit for BV, it is after all a community stadium.

I don't know the feasibility of it but personally I think Leeds United reserves returning to BV or their Ladies team would be a great option.

[Kirmonds pouch]

2 hours ago, dboy said:

Well then you've lost me.

You replied to my post about the old floodlights/North Stand roof, with something about the new pitch.

Whatever point you are trying to make, you're not making it.

No I'm saying you are correct, I don't know why I quoted you, that was meant to say my error, don't know what happened there.

[dboy]

19 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

No I'm saying you are correct, I don't know why I quoted you, that was meant to say my error, don't know what happened there.

Lol - now I'm with you!

[Tommygilf]

6 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said:

I don't know the feasibility of it but personally I think Leeds United reserves returning to BV or their Ladies team would be a great option.

Think for now they are happy with York and Tadcaster respectively being used for those.

[Spidey]

On 22/08/2022 at 12:12, Kirmonds pouch said:

Why would a non league football team take over?

 

I know where you are coming from and the issues with sharing, Hudds and Hull to name but two.

However Trinity own the stadium outright, other than effectively having a mortgage. So any team, not just a football team would be purely renting. I can't see any reason why Trinity would ever sell the ground or even share it tbh. However the rent from a tenant would go some way to paying said mortgage, or better still paying it off far quicker.

Let's use Wakefield FC as an example, who are currently renting at Fev. They are ambitious but I don't think they believe they will ever be a Premiership team. However if they reach the pinnacle of non League which is a more realistic aim they need a stadium and especially a pitch that will allow them to play top flight opposition, most notably in the FA cup, the real cash cow for such clubs.

No offence but Fev's pitch wouldn't be acceptable to any major football team or the professional leagues, so home advantage would be lost and no cup runs  or promotion etc.

Sure, Trinity would need to stay solvent and thus in control for the ground and not actually share for the best result. But in truth if Trinity failed the first club circling the BV would be WFC anyway, so it make no odds.

Ownerships can change - there's not a soccer club in this country I don't trust to try and swoop in and turf out a rugby club - its becoming a recurring theme over the past couple of decades.  Hopefully Wakefield keep control no matter what

Widnes get whinged about having the plastic pitch - but while that's in place I'm pretty confident a soccer club wont come in an turf us out

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

Ownerships can change - there's not a soccer club in this country I don't trust to try and swoop in and turf out a rugby club - its becoming a recurring theme over the past couple of decades.  Hopefully Wakefield keep control no matter what

Widnes get whinged about having the plastic pitch - but while that's in place I'm pretty confident a soccer club wont come in an turf us out

Sorry if I've missed the obvious, but I assume you are aware that Widnes already share with a soccer club?

[Spidey]

14 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Sorry if I've missed the obvious, but I assume you are aware that Widnes already share with a soccer club?

Yes.... however as previously pointed out the limit for a 4g pitch is non-league football, so I doubt they're much of a threat (for now)  

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

16 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Think for now they are happy with York and Tadcaster respectively being used for those.

That's good.  We don't want a repeat of the gridlock that occurred around Belle Vue when Robbie Fowler made his debut for Leeds Reserves there.

[gingerjon]

20 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Yes.... however as previously pointed out the limit for a 4g pitch is non-league football, so I doubt they're much of a threat (for now)  

I think you're completely safe with Widnes FC unless some godawful slave state is looking to make new inroads into Merseyside.

It was a bit more concerning when Liverpool (and Everton?) women were using the ground.

[DI Keith Fowler]

22 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Yes.... however as previously pointed out the limit for a 4g pitch is non-league football, so I doubt they're much of a threat (for now)  

Think they're moving out anyway? Can't afford the rent. 

[Agbrigg]

44 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

That's good.  We don't want a repeat of the gridlock that occurred around Belle Vue when Robbie Fowler made his debut for Leeds Reserves there.

Yes quite right too 

I remember going down to one of those reserve games out of pure curiosity. That long streak of urine Peter Crouch was soiling the sacred BV trurf

Edited August 23, 2022 by Agbrigg

[Josef K]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

Ownerships can change - there's not a soccer club in this country I don't trust to try and swoop in and turf out a rugby club - its becoming a recurring theme over the past couple of decades.  Hopefully Wakefield keep control no matter what

Widnes get whinged about having the plastic pitch - but while that's in place I'm pretty confident a soccer club wont come in an turf us out

I wouldn’t trust a rugger club, look at the Sale Cuckoos. 

[iffleyox]

33 minutes ago, Josef K said:

I wouldn’t trust a rugger club, look at the Sale Cuckoos. 

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Edited August 23, 2022 by iffleyox

[gingerjon]

36 minutes ago, Josef K said:

I wouldn’t trust a rugger club, look at the Sale Cuckoos. 

It was Salford City who were going to kick Salford out of their ground.

[Wolford6]

I haven't read 23 pages on this and aplogies if already mentioned in the thread.

Wakefield is the largest town/city in England without a Football League Team

(Answer to a Question in the Airedale Quiz League)

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

19 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

I haven't read 23 pages on this and aplogies if already mentioned in the thread.

Wakefield is the largest town/city in England without a Football League Team

(Answer to a Question in the Airedale Quiz League)

And long may it stay that way. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Wollo Wollo Wayoo

[Agbrigg]

17 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

I haven't read 23 pages on this and aplogies if already mentioned in the thread.

Wakefield is the largest town/city in England without a Football League Team

(Answer to a Question in the Airedale Quiz League)

Yep

Or a cricket team

Or a RU team

And nearly without a SL team.

However wakey has a huge blossoming art industry , with heavy investment in such facilities

[Tommygilf]

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

It was Salford City who were going to kick Salford out of their ground.

No, Salford City and Sale were going to buy the ground. Neither side was supportive of a 3rd team being based at the ground, but Salford City's owners made it clear publicly in several interviews I've seen (mainly Gary Neville) that they would not go ahead with a deal that made SRD homeless.

They haven't done that, despite Sale being more than happy to do so.

[gingerjon]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

No, Salford City and Sale were going to buy the ground. Neither side was supportive of a 3rd team being based at the ground, but Salford City's owners made it clear publicly in several interviews I've seen (mainly Gary Neville) that they would not go ahead with a deal that made SRD homeless.

They haven't done that, despite Sale being more than happy to do so.

Apologies. Got that one wrong.

[Josef K]

4 hours ago, gingerjon said:

It was Salford City who were going to kick Salford out of their ground.

I thought SRD were content with moving to where Salford City play ?. Hopefully if the fella who is interested in buying SRD that will all change.