Chronicler of Chiswick Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 As Christmas presents go, that's a good'n. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agbrigg Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Try reading the info and stop being negative for the sake of it, you really are a bore. Notes from todays planning meeting conclusion. "A set of Planning Obligations are proposed to be included within a legal agreement Under Section 106 of the Act which would be signed by both Spirit of 1873 (The Club) and Newmarket Lane Ltd and would require the £8.8m contribution to be made within 1 week of the approval of a Delivery Plan for the stadium improvement project. A further (negatively framed) planning obligation would bar Newmarket Lane Ltd from commencing the warehouse development until both the approval of the Delivery Plan and the payment of the contribution'. That should be clear enough even for you. Would be signed... so not yet signed Look sorry for being negative and all. But my experience of everything Yorkcourt tells me not to accept anything till it's actually delivered. I really hope I am wrong and you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Agbrigg said: Would be signed... so not yet signed Look sorry for being negative and all. But my experience of everything Yorkcourt tells me not to accept anything till it's actually delivered. I really hope I am wrong and you are right. Well of course it's not signed, it only passed 4 hours ago, probably is now. What experience with YC? The same as the rest of us I'd assume. This has little to do with YC and everything to do with the Council. If you want to be negative its WMDC who you should be worried about, however it's hard to see how they can wriggle out of this or would want to, especially after committing 2 million already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agbrigg Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Well of course it's not signed, it only passed 4 hours ago, probably is now. What experience with YC? The same as the rest of us I'd assume. This has little to do with YC and everything to do with the Council. If you want to be negative its WMDC who you should be worried about, however it's hard to see how they can wriggle out of this or would want to, especially after committing 2 million already. Look we both obviously want this to happen. We both want me to look a miserable old pessimist and you right. I am sorry kirmo, I just do not trust YC for many reasons including some I can't post on here. I will leave it for now and just sit back and see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I'm really happy for the Wakey faithful, they've had to put up with so much over the years when it's come to the ground situation and it finally looks like something might be happening so let's hope everything is sorted in full and work can start soon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said: I'm really happy for the Wakey faithful, they've had to put up with so much over the years when it's come to the ground situation and it finally looks like something might be happening so let's hope everything is sorted in full and work can start soon. Absolutely. Bring on the time when they can commission a watercolour painting of the actual stand Pleased for the fans. Edited December 16, 2021 by Scubby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 demolition of one of the stands has already begun today with most of the beer mats been used to level up the corners of it been removed 5 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Future is League Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Damien said: I think the ground improvement's will go ahead this time, but if they don't Wakey will loose their Super League status. within 3 years. Cas must take this as a wake up call otherwise they will fine themselves in the Championship within 3 years if they don't do major improvement's to their ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Damien said: That would have some validity had he ever signed for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: That would have some validity had he ever signed for the club. He was a Stanningley player who then went to Wakey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: He was a Stanningley player who then went to Wakey. I can find no record of him at the club. At what level are we talking about exactly, he certainly never signed a full time contract as far as I can see. Why the opinions of a seriously no mark player have any validity is beyond me. Edited December 17, 2021 by Kirmonds pouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREPOSTEROUS Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: I can find no record of him at the club. At what level are we talking about exactly, he certainly never signed a full time contract as far as I can see. Why the opinions of a seriously no mark player have any validity is beyond me. I think it's an attempt to be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, PREPOSTEROUS said: I think it's an attempt to be funny. No, it's the usual attempt to turn any positive RL story into a negative. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Damien said: 11 years ago Wakey convinced me to buy a Season Ticket, saying they were signing "some right players"! Lying bas..... To be fair to Cam Leeming, his comments on Twitter are quite warm and he's just poking fun. We'll still only believe it when we see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, dboy said: 11 years ago Wakey convinced me to buy a Season Ticket, saying they were signing "some right players"! Lying bas..... To be fair to Cam Leeming, his comments on Twitter are quite warm and he's just poking fun. We'll still only believe it when we see it. Yep its just a funny piece of light hearted banter and should be taken for what it is. Its hard to believe that some can get so precious about such a thing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, Damien said: Yep its just a funny piece of light hearted banter and should be taken for what it is. Its hard to believe that some can get so precious about such a thing. Indeed. I think everyone will be happy for Wakey getting this project underway and it will have had enough banter in the pubs and clubs of the district over the years. Spending the brass wisely is the next step and keeping tabs on the construction management. Every error involves cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaide Tiger Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Try reading the info and stop being negative for the sake of it, you really are a bore. Notes from todays planning meeting conclusion. "A set of Planning Obligations are proposed to be included within a legal agreement Under Section 106 of the Act which would be signed by both Spirit of 1873 (The Club) and Newmarket Lane Ltd and would require the £8.8m contribution to be made within 1 week of the approval of a Delivery Plan for the stadium improvement project. A further (negatively framed) planning obligation would bar Newmarket Lane Ltd from commencing the warehouse development until both the approval of the Delivery Plan and the payment of the contribution'. That should be clear enough even for you. Re: the £8.8m contribution. Does this mean that the £8.8m contribution is put into an account and Wakey themselves control all payment for work. If so that is a good outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Damien said: Yep its just a funny piece of light hearted banter and should be taken for what it is. Its hard to believe that some can get so precious about such a thing. In what way is it funny? I'm not precious but it's lame to say the least. However that wasn't my issue, I can still find no evidence that he ever joined Trinity in any capacity. Anyway similar to Dboys point, I signed for Leeds RL as they were then as a colts player, at the time they told me they were building a team to win the league within three years. I never played for the Leeds first team but had I my career would have needed to have lasted nearly 15+ years for that to actually happen. Yet I don't hold it against Leeds because in fairness it did look like they were building a team capable of winning the league at the time, they were not lying it just didn't work out as they thought it would. Ten years ago NM was a near cert, passed by the a Minister of the Crown, at the time the Trinity committee had no reason not to believe it and as such were telling the truth as they knew it at the time. Thats why it's not funny, it's a fib regarding the player himself built into a historical misconception, old and wrong news is as stated not funny. So sorry call me a killjoy but it's not funny in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Adelaide Tiger said: Re: the £8.8m contribution. Does this mean that the £8.8m contribution is put into an account and Wakey themselves control all payment for work. If so that is a good outcome. No, it goes to a Trust I believe run by the Council, Club and developer or something along those lines. Because it's a 'community stadium' Trinity have to comply to a number of requirements. It's a slightly odd one as Trinity do own the ground not the trust or the council as would be more usual but they will have to surrender some autonomy to the council, not a bad thing in my opinion. The plus side to this is that the ground cannot be gambled away and will be separate to the clubs finances as part of the S106. This also means that it will be far easier to get council support for further investment in the future as the council can justify it as a community facility. I expect to see another RL grant from WMDC in the future should the three clubs fulfil their community element of the deal. May prove to be a new way for councils to support local teams in the future, where they leave the running and development of the community stadiums to the clubs but help in ways that matter and that they are good at. I think it's very interesting that WMDC leant Trinity the money to buy the ground at an incredibly low interest rate, yet they can justify this because it's still higher than the rate they would get from a bank though not much. Yet I'm reliably informed that the interest WMDC get from Trinity keeps two rural bus services going, so it's a win win for both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Damien said: Yep its just a funny piece of light hearted banter and should be taken for what it is. Its hard to believe that some can get so precious about such a thing. I think my joke response has done a "whooosh" though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaide Tiger Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: No, it goes to a Trust I believe run by the Council, Club and developer or something along those lines. Because it's a 'community stadium' Trinity have to comply to a number of requirements. It's a slightly odd one as Trinity do own the ground not the trust or the council as would be more usual but they will have to surrender some autonomy to the council, not a bad thing in my opinion. The plus side to this is that the ground cannot be gambled away and will be separate to the clubs finances as part of the S106. This also means that it will be far easier to get council support for further investment in the future as the council can justify it as a community facility. I expect to see another RL grant from WMDC in the future should the three clubs fulfil their community element of the deal. May prove to be a new way for councils to support local teams in the future, where they leave the running and development of the community stadiums to the clubs but help in ways that matter and that they are good at. I think it's very interesting that WMDC leant Trinity the money to buy the ground at an incredibly low interest rate, yet they can justify this because it's still higher than the rate they would get from a bank though not much. Yet I'm reliably informed that the interest WMDC get from Trinity keeps two rural bus services going, so it's a win win for both. Thanks for the response. That process should ensure accountability which in turn should ensure good decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said: I can find no record of him at the club. At what level are we talking about exactly, he certainly never signed a full time contract as far as I can see. Why the opinions of a seriously no mark player have any validity is beyond me. He's been a decent player at Championship level with a few clubs including Hunslet Hawks were he played along side a couple of players from my neck of the woods. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Marauder said: He's been a decent player at Championship level with a few clubs including Hunslet Hawks were he played along side a couple of players from my neck of the woods. Fair enough but he never signed for Trinity which is odd because most championship players have at some point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 50 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Fair enough but he never signed for Trinity which is odd because most championship players have at some point! Hi may have done one day but I think he may have had to retire because of injury. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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