Tommygilf 7,964 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 28 minutes ago, whatmichaelsays said: A cheap and needless shot from Lenegan. Maybe he should spend more time listening to people like Hetherington? He might learn how to turn Wigan into a profitable club. Deflection I suppose, he must be under a lot of pressure. In the past 3 years he's had a rough time management wise; just off the top of my head Shaun Edwards decides he doesn't want to be coach after a personal agreement with Lenegan, then all the criticisms of the Elstone administration he put in place, then the de facto collapse of that administration entirely, plus covid, and all in the backdrop of declining crowds for the past 10 years or so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
M j M 6,197 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 10 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Deflection I suppose, he must be under a lot of pressure. In the past 3 years he's had a rough time management wise; just off the top of my head Shaun Edwards decides he doesn't want to be coach after a personal agreement with Lenegan, then all the criticisms of the Elstone administration he put in place, then the de facto collapse of that administration entirely, plus covid, and all in the backdrop of declining crowds for the past 10 years or so. Plus the failed Australian tour which he said would make money then used as an excuse when losses for that year were even more than usual. And the cheap attempt to get hold of the stadium which fell flat. It's been a series of negative events. And I see, yet again, that the revolving door of primary sponsors has gone around again - it's amazing how, of all the clubs in the league, they are the ones with by far the worst records of building long-term sponsor partnerships. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,971 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronBower/status/1369329345400086535 The link to the full article. Link to post Share on other sites
EagleEyePie 423 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Hela Wigmen said: "I'm sure there are people that would like that to be the case. Gary (Hetherington) has never hidden the fact he wants Leeds to be the centre of the universe and the RFL, who were once in Leeds, to be the centre of his universe." Ian Lenegan not mixing his words. This really doesn't help anything. We knew there was a close relationship between Hetherington and the RFL back in the day but there's a close relationship between Lenagan and Elstone. Elstone was his choice. It also just highlights why no one with any sense would want to replace Elstone. They'd have no more power than these chairman and who would want to get in the middle of this. I don't think anyone particularly wants the RFL to have full control under its current governance and with its continued history of incompetence, but the Super League clubs had their chance to fix things but instead chose to have all the power and keep the CEO at their level, ensuring nothing changed. Link to post Share on other sites
Angelic Cynic 1,097 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Local press report on Lenagan,which mentions Elstone,and the tv deal et al https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-league/ian-lenagan-talks-tv-deal-wigan-warriors-2021-hopes-and-wigan-athletics-future-3159811?itm_source=parsely-api No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent. Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,971 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 https://mobile.twitter.com/PWilkinsonWIG/status/1369310633875890176 That acceptance for the TV money is thoroughly depressing. Link to post Share on other sites
DI Keith Fowler 378 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 You can't say he comes across well can you? I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to post Share on other sites
Josef K 64 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 44 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: https://mobile.twitter.com/PWilkinsonWIG/status/1369310633875890176 That acceptance for the TV money is thoroughly depressing. I’m confused have we gone back to 2011. Link to post Share on other sites
Angelic Cynic 1,097 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 I wonder how much it costs for ' external advisors ' for a broadcast deal,when I thought that was Elstone's term of reference,as well as the independent bodies To sift through applications for certain clubs who think themselves deserving of promotion,and to eject Toronto Wolfpack? https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/everything-wigan-warriors-owner-ian-20021373.amp?__twitter_impression=true No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave T 18,663 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 19 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: https://mobile.twitter.com/PWilkinsonWIG/status/1369310633875890176 That acceptance for the TV money is thoroughly depressing. I suppose the reality is that the NRL have signed a reduced deal, as have the RU Premiership. It's a bad time for sports rights to come up - the question will be how much of a drop are we going to accept. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM 7,639 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Indeed, plus how might the game find alternative revenue raising opportunities for the bits Sky and the BBC don't want. 1 Four legs good - two legs bad Link to post Share on other sites
fighting irish 1,899 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 I'm surprised he has no idea, how much it takes to run a championship or championship 1 club. You'd think he'd have a ball park average in his mind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rupert Prince 1,729 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 On 10/03/2021 at 12:38, Dave T said: I suppose the reality is that the NRL have signed a reduced deal, as have the RU Premiership. It's a bad time for sports rights to come up - the question will be how much of a drop are we going to accept. Too many posters on here stick their head in the sand, and point their prejudice up in the air. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
del capo 409 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 On 09/03/2021 at 17:10, Hela Wigmen said: https://mobile.twitter.com/PWilkinsonWIG/status/1369310633875890176 That acceptance for the TV money is thoroughly depressing. The RFL Council on 14/9/2018 agreed the division of a future TV contract between the RFL ( who grant aid Championship and below ) and SLE ( who look after themselves ). That I presume is the reference made by Lenegan to the TV deal. Under clause 4 headed ' Future Funding for seasons 2022 and beyond' it reads 4vi- This funding will continue into future broadcast deals ( and seasons ) if revenues received in the relevant year do not fall below £35 million. and at 4vii- ' Should in any year broadcast rights fall below £35 million, RFL and SLE will enter good faith discussions about revenue share '. I can only assume/ hope that those discussions are already taking place. The RFL's own funding and certainly the grants to the Championship clubs and below must be under severe pressure if the rumours of the TV deal being approx £30 million a year are right. If Sky try funds ( currently received and awarded by RFL ) disappear then the grass roots supported through the Foundations are also likely to take a significant £million + financial hit....... Link to post Share on other sites
Rupert Prince 1,729 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 On 09/03/2021 at 16:36, Tommygilf said: Deflection I suppose, he must be under a lot of pressure. In the past 3 years he's had a rough time management wise; just off the top of my head Shaun Edwards decides he doesn't want to be coach after a personal agreement with Lenegan, then all the criticisms of the Elstone administration he put in place, then the de facto collapse of that administration entirely, plus covid, and all in the backdrop of declining crowds for the past 10 years or so. It's a shame they only finished top of the league. And developed a new fantastic administrative and training complex right on the doorstep of the stadium including a great fan zone and club shop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygilf 7,964 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said: It's a shame they only finished top of the league. And developed a new fantastic administrative and training complex right on the doorstep of the stadium including a great fan zone and club shop. I hope Robin Park works for them Link to post Share on other sites
Damien 13,230 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, Spidey said: That's an interesting left field choice. It seems like a very centre ground choice between the big clubs with money and those with barely a pot to ###### in. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygilf 7,964 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, Spidey said: Both Wakefield's Michael Carter and Hull's Adam Pearson highlighted him as someone they would support in recent interviews. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ATLANTISMAN 1,188 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Both Ian and Gary are super guys with nothing but the interest of rugby league at heart,i sincerely hope that for the sake of the game everyone can buy the Hatchett and get on with it. As a sport we need everyone onside here. Ken Davy good choice for now IMHO. Paul Link to post Share on other sites
Man of Kent 8,020 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Ooh, “lasting framework”. Sounds like a plan is brewing. https://www.superleague.co.uk/article/1897/super-league-(europe)-board-appoint-interim-chairman Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygilf 7,964 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 46 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: Ooh, “lasting framework”. Sounds like a plan is brewing. https://www.superleague.co.uk/article/1897/super-league-(europe)-board-appoint-interim-chairman £99 season tickets inbound! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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