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2 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

35,104 which sounds very good although of course it’s the usual reality of there only ever being so many people in the ground at the same time 

With that in mind, is it really necessary to always go to St James Park? I understand the desire to promote RL in Newcastle, but wouldn't it be better to take the event around the country? There's plenty of 30000 plus stadiums that I'd have thought would be ample. It wouldn't look so empty in those.

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50 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said:

With that in mind, is it really necessary to always go to St James Park? I understand the desire to promote RL in Newcastle, but wouldn't it be better to take the event around the country? There's plenty of 30000 plus stadiums that I'd have thought would be ample. It wouldn't look so empty in those.

This is a lucrative event for the bidding cities so to a degree it's a case of following the money. Although that said, when Liverpool outbid Newcastle that time it wasn't so well received.

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3 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:

With that in mind, is it really necessary to always go to St James Park? I understand the desire to promote RL in Newcastle, but wouldn't it be better to take the event around the country? There's plenty of 30000 plus stadiums that I'd have thought would be ample. It wouldn't look so empty in those.

Would agree if we are targeting areas but for now whilst Newcastle are not in SL I would keep it there. Or maybe Sheffield now they are bk in the city. 

If Toulouse go up,  Newcastle can open Magic next year. 

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6 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:

With that in mind, is it really necessary to always go to St James Park? I understand the desire to promote RL in Newcastle, but wouldn't it be better to take the event around the country? There's plenty of 30000 plus stadiums that I'd have thought would be ample. It wouldn't look so empty in those.

I think you need a 45,000+ stadium to make it comfortable for people to move around and watch what they want to watch - which is the whole point of Magic.

35,000 on the gate is pretty decent. Be nice to stick with it in Newcastle again next year.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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So often, our sport has been criticised for chopping and changing stuff. Stability, predictability and incremental change  is the name of the game as far as I am concerned. Keep it at Newcastle and build it , improve it year on year.

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35000 is decent in a 'could be worse' way. But it's not that different from the opening one in Cardiff in 2007, so it doesn't seem to be growing and I think that's a worry.

It's not a disastrous figure and in the current circumstances, definitely not bad. It's just that it is not growing as hoped. 

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Easy to say 'move it around the country', but how many cities have both:

- 'draw' for visitors wanting a nice weekend and enough infrastructure to accommodate 25k+ incoming fans (sorry Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Middlesbrough)

- a large, modern stadium with sufficient comfort to make sitting there for a full day not complete misery for anyone over 5ft6 (sorry Liverpool, Leeds, Bristol)

Being optimistic, I can maybe think of Sheffield, Derby and maybe Brighton (a long trek from heartlands) as decent contenders, besides those we've already had and London.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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15 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

35000 is decent in a 'could be worse' way. But it's not that different from the opening one in Cardiff in 2007, so it doesn't seem to be growing and I think that's a worry.

It's not a disastrous figure and in the current circumstances, definitely not bad. It's just that it is not growing as hoped. 

You expected it to grow this year? 

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Just now, Spidey said:

You expected it to grow this year? 

I'd have expected it to grow since 2007.....which I actually implied in the post.

This year could have then been seen as a good result in isolation if it had grown to, say, crowds of 45k per day (only  something like a 1000 increase every year....not unachievable) pre C19.

 

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2 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

I'd have expected it to grow since 2007.....which I actually implied in the post.

This year could have then been seen as a good result in isolation if it had grown to, say, crowds of 45k per day (only  something like a 1000 increase every year....not unachievable) pre C19.

 

The general trend is growth overall. Bigger crowds at Newcastle v Cardiff. 

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I don’t know how many people had to cancel their tickets due to the rearranged dates, but I know a fair few of them who are involved in the community game, where that wasn’t possible this time round. Equally, there’s plenty of folk who are just not ready to return to sports grounds quite yet. 
 

35k is a very respectable figure in the circumstances. 

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I could make the case for a multi-venue weekend, e.g.

Saturday (Ashton Gate, Bristol)

- Wigan v Salford

- Warrington v Saints

(Montpellier)

- Toulouse v Catalans

Sunday (Pride Park, Derby / Bramall Lane, Sheffield)

- Hull v Cas

- Leeds v Hudds

- Hull KR v Wakefield

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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Anybody who is suggesting Derby needs to stop drinking. Right now. Grim city. Grim pubs. Grim stadium. And that’s coming from someone who has lived in Leigh their entire life.*

*Currently travelling by train to Newcastle having driven all of 14 minutes from home, and that included a Maccies detour

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It`s not going backwards and that`s the main thing.

The results should ensure the same crowd turns up next year and a few more. The golden point drop goals should make great promo material next year, ' Magic on Magic weekend".

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24 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Cardiff Average 61k ish

Newcastle Average 66.5K ish

+9% Growth

That's just one place though and won't represent the overall picture. MM was set up initially to help grow the game in Wales. The idea of moving it around was to generate similar interest elsewhere. I'm not sure it has 

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