Mr Plow Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Would it be a success in England? I don’t think you’ll get 90K at Wembley but would 70K at Ild Trafford be realistic or 50K at Etihad it St James’ Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobbygobbler Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Plow said: Would it be a success in England? I don’t think you’ll get 90K at Wembley but would 70K at Ild Trafford be realistic or 50K at Etihad it St James’ Park More likely to get 90k at Wembley as most Aussies live down here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 So is the OP asking if Brits would attend or Aussie expats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The only thing to compromise a sold out Wembley for State of Origin would be the 11am kick off time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogiron Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Because of RLs almost invisible profile in this country it would be nigh on impossible to attract other than the comitted Leaguie or expat. The Aussies have always wanted a test to take place in London even to the extent of13,000 of us rattling around Wembley back in 1973. While there is still cities and states willing to pay big money to stage it in their own country why should they want to travel over here? and if they did it would only be to London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I think the biggest obstacle would be the players union complaining about jet lag. Or does that only apply to non NRL controlled internationals? . London would be the most likely venue, Spurs new ground perhaps. Would be nice to see as I’m sure a lot of northerners would travel down as well as expats. Cant see it happening though due to my first point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I would only go and watch if the players promised to try hard. I wouldn't open the curtains to watch that Queensland performance again today if they were playing in my back yard. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenGilesRL Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I don't care for SOO. It stunts the international game and fuels the Aussie ego's, whilst being completely insular as far as the rest of the world having an interest. Not watched at all this year. A GB trial equivalent between England and a combined Celts side would be interesting, but I'd rather NRL players were released for the individual Celtic nations so they could field their strongest sides in a European Cup equivalent of the Oceania Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I’d sooner see anarchy in the U.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I don't mind SOO, so long as other areas get the chance to play representative fixtures at the same time. This weekend they have been, but the hypocrisy about midweek fixtures is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogiron Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BenGilesRL said: I don't care for SOO. It stunts the international game and fuels the Aussie ego's, whilst being completely insular as far as the rest of the world having an interest. Not watched at all this year. A GB trial equivalent between England and a combined Celts side would be interesting, but I'd rather NRL players were released for the individual Celtic nations so they could field their strongest sides in a European Cup equivalent of the Oceania Cup It also makes them a awful lot of money and while that remains so international games, which don't, will always be a poor second for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwalesrabbitoh Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Dunbar said: I would only go and watch if the players promised to try hard. I wouldn't open the curtains to watch that Queensland performance again today if they were playing in my back yard. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Seeing it’s all based around 9 tv ratings I can’t see them having it outside their prime time . Absolutely no way will it happen . The demand there for games is huge as is the revenues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 As it’s one of the biggest sporting events in Australia and because of our cultural links, I suspect it’d get more local media coverage in England than some big SL events. That would be both good and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newguy Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 On 18/06/2019 at 20:41, Chrispmartha said: I'm asking how you define it 7 hours ago, deluded pom? said: I’d sooner see anarchy in the U.K. Didn't that happen in 77? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Newguy said: Didn't that happen in 77? Unfortunately not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I thought you meant Lancashire v Yorkshire by the title. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmain1969 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 We have a team called the Kangaroo's that is being majorly underutilized to promote the game in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 23/06/2019 at 13:50, Clogiron said: Because of RLs almost invisible profile in this country it would be nigh on impossible to attract other than the comitted Leaguie or expat. The Aussies have always wanted a test to take place in London even to the extent of13,000 of us rattling around Wembley back in 1973. While there is still cities and states willing to pay big money to stage it in their own country why should they want to travel over here? and if they did it would only be to London I’d concur with this. State of Origin has never had any profile in the UK, you just never hear it mentioned (nor the NRL league), so it’s Aussie expats and RL devotees that would make up most of the interest if a game was played here. The obvious comparison is the NFL, which in contrast to SOO has always had a niche interest in the UK, so curious onlookers attend. There are no (proper) American football teams/league here as it isn’t popular enough to play/watch, so those that are curious (or do follow the sport) would go see pro teams that come here. There isn’t that curiosity factor with RL with the sport being played here (being the home of it come to that). Let’s say Wigan are the most popular RL team in the UK, far more people would watch them here than any Aussie RL team, and given the number who would watch Wigan wouldn’t be substantial it doesn’t say much for an Aussie team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, DC77 said: I’d concur with this. State of Origin has never had any profile in the UK, you just never hear it mentioned (nor the NRL league), so it’s Aussie expats and RL devotees that would make up most of the interest if a game was played here. The obvious comparison is the NFL, which in contrast to SOO has always had a niche interest in the UK, so curious onlookers attend. There are no (proper) American football teams/league here as it isn’t popular enough to play/watch, so those that are curious (or do follow the sport) would go see pro teams that come here. There are also many people from mainland Europe who travel to London to see an NFL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, deluded pom? said: There are also many people from mainland Europe who travel to London to see an NFL game. Indeed, in the couple of games I went to I was amazed at the number of German's at the games and I probably heard as many German speakers as English ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 15 hours ago, SL17 said: Didn't SL clash with Championship? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnleywelsh Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 hours ago, DC77 said: There are no (proper) American football teams/league here as it isn’t popular enough to play/watch, so those that are curious (or do follow the sport) would go see pro teams that come here. Not bad for no (proper) teams. https://www.britishamericanfootball.org/teams/contact--adult#.XREWtozTWhA https://www.britishamericanfootball.org/teams/contact--university#.XREXBYzTWhA https://www.britishamericanfootball.org/teams/contact--women#.XREXwYzTWhA And that’s just men’s, universities and women’s teams. Not included all the college and junior teams. I wish RL had this sort of reach countrywide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'd go and watch Origin in London. Maybe up north too, although that's a lot further for me. It would be a good spectacle and worth doing at least once. Would much rather go and watch England/GB in London for The Ashes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 On 24/06/2019 at 17:31, deluded pom? said: There are also many people from mainland Europe who travel to London to see an NFL game. True, but NFL has a niche interest there... On 24/06/2019 at 18:06, Damien said: Indeed, in the couple of games I went to I was amazed at the number of German's at the games and I probably heard as many German speakers as English ones. ...especially in Germany. Think most (if not all) of the teams in NFL Europe were based in Germany before it folded. You have niche interest, and the curiosity factor (the latter probably sparked by what is a foreign sport getting some media coverage), that fuels NFL attendances in England. RL ain’t foreign in England, so there isn’t that “what’s this” factor. Non RL people (who follow/watch sport) know it’s a game rooted in the north of England, they’ve heard of the Wigan’s/St Helens, so there isn’t the curiosity/appeal of something from outside. You aren’t going to get folk from mainland Europe coming over either as Aussie RL doesn’t get media coverage to spark the curiosity there. It’s RL devotees and Aussie expats that would make up the bulk of the interest. Regards Aussie RL, I’d be curious to know how many watch it in the UK in comparison to those who watch SL? I’d hazard a guess it’s nowhere near it. An Aussie RL team doesn’t carry any more weight here than a SL team, certainly in terms of name recognition. On 24/06/2019 at 19:36, burnleywelsh said: Not bad for no (proper) teams. https://www.britishamericanfootball.org/teams/contact--adult#.XREWtozTWhA https://www.britishamericanfootball.org/teams/contact--university#.XREXBYzTWhA https://www.britishamericanfootball.org/teams/contact--women#.XREXwYzTWhA And that’s just men’s, universities and women’s teams. Not included all the college and junior teams. I wish RL had this sort of reach countrywide. Proper as in pro, as in being competitive with teams in another country. Those uni teams would get killed. And how many watch these uni teams? (not including dog walkers passing by the field). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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