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For those STILL not convinced and think they're being tough and brave by going out to socialise against advice, here's a former SAS Regimental Sergeant Major, Military Cross holder among many others and someone who knows what tough is.

Just don't do it, you're not tough, brave or clever by going socialising against instructions, you're just cannon fodder who proper squaddies would volunteer to be first over the trenches to soak up fire.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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For those STILL not convinced and think they're being tough and brave by going out to socialise against advice, here's a former SAS Regimental Sergeant Major, Military Cross holder among many others and someone who knows what tough is.

Just don't do it, you're not tough, brave or clever by going socialising against instructions, you're just cannon fodder who proper squaddies would volunteer to be first over the trenches to soak up fire.

But we’re British old chap ...

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Oh, and if you do go out to an event today, maybe a barbecue at a mate's or one of those "prohibition pop-up pubs" I've seen mentioned on Facebook then please feel free to post pictures of it so we can have something to use on the Obituary thread.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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if that guy from the sas hadn't gone out socialising he wouldn't have spent a stretch in prison for punching  FEMALE door staff - the day I listen to pricks like him will be my last

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Just had a WhatsApp message, an audio file  from a mate of 25 years. the track purports to be a reading of a Chinese report on what they have found out about how to minimise the chances of infection. It's utter ###### but sound plausible. supposedly come from a hospital on Majorca or somewhere. File should be attached.

 

AUD-20200321-WA0000.opus

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ok I will hold my hand up and I know I am gonna get flack for this (ckn) -yes I went to the pub last night ( it was packed)  not because I think im tough but because its what everyone in there chose to do- the young  barmaid was bewildered and ended up crying because her job was gone, closing community hubs is not the way forward this is just causing stress and panic on a scale that is more un healthy than any virus could ever be 

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5 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

ok I will hold my hand up and I know I am gonna get flack for this (ckn) -yes I went to the pub last night ( it was packed)  not because I think im tough but because its what everyone in there chose to do- the young  barmaid was bewildered and ended up crying because her job was gone, closing community hubs is not the way forward this is just causing stress and panic on a scale that is more un healthy than any virus could ever be 

Nope. I never thought I’d see the day when I agreed with closing pubs but in this case it’s absolutely the correct thing to do. I’m probably as big a p iss artist as you but a while not being able to go to the pub is absolutely no big deal if it means this disease isn’t spread around as much. I should reiterate, I go to the pub regularly as does my Mrs and we’ll be gutted to not go for a while. But ultimately, it’s just a bit of a pain in the arris. 
It’s possibly a bit macabre but watch some clips of people dying from this and see if you still think it’s a bad cold.

Anyway, I’m working tonight so life in that respect is pretty much normal and to be honest, it’s a bit of relief. Now I never thought I’d be saying that about going into work on a Saturday night!!

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20 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

ok I will hold my hand up and I know I am gonna get flack for this (ckn) -yes I went to the pub last night ( it was packed)  not because I think im tough but because its what everyone in there chose to do- the young  barmaid was bewildered and ended up crying because her job was gone, closing community hubs is not the way forward this is just causing stress and panic on a scale that is more un healthy than any virus could ever be 

Wholly irresponsible of you.  You know full well the reasons why, too, which makes it worse.  ????????

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ok, bad cold remark may have been a bit off the cuff, but the abuse and name calling that came my way on this thread yesterday  from CKN (abusing his position as a moderater in my view) was not called for - I just suggested I may go out - I didn't even say I was , its gonna sort out who you would want to be in the trenches with and when fellow forum members turn on you like that then it shows whos who

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32 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

ok I will hold my hand up and I know I am gonna get flack for this (ckn) -yes I went to the pub last night ( it was packed)  not because I think im tough but because its what everyone in there chose to do- the young  barmaid was bewildered and ended up crying because her job was gone, closing community hubs is not the way forward this is just causing stress and panic on a scale that is more un healthy than any virus could ever be 

There is a considerable downside to these restrictions. Closing pubs has a significant social impact in England, more than most nations. It is necessary and I think closing the pubs will send a significant message. 

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47 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

ok I will hold my hand up and I know I am gonna get flack for this (ckn) -yes I went to the pub last night ( it was packed)  not because I think im tough but because its what everyone in there chose to do- the young  barmaid was bewildered and ended up crying because her job was gone, closing community hubs is not the way forward this is just causing stress and panic on a scale that is more un healthy than any virus could ever be 

Well you could be more wrong but I’m struggling to think how

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Well you could be more wrong but I’m struggling to think how

The people I would most worry about is the parent in a small flat caring for vulnerable (perhaps difficult) children. I have a nice middle-class life, even full lockdown would actually be little more than annoying. For others it could be hellish and lead to destitution.

Relative to that, closing pubs is expedient.

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Just now, graveyard johnny said:

what about peoples mental health in all this? stress is a killer too 

And if you bothered to look around, you'd notice there's a huge amount going on about that.

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16 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

There is a considerable downside to these restrictions. Closing pubs has a significant social impact in England, more than most nations. It is necessary and I think closing the pubs will send a significant message. 

The message it seems to be sending to a certain group is, "so I'm expected to suffer, is it? I don't think so."

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As an aside, plenty of social distancing going on but also enough food on the shelves, in Sainsbury's just now.

A bloke sanitising the payment pad in between uses as well.

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The message it seems to be sending to a certain group is, "so I'm expected to suffer, is it? I don't think so."

Yes.

There will be people who become over anxious and people who are too blase.

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30 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

ok, bad cold remark may have been a bit off the cuff, but the abuse and name calling that came my way on this thread yesterday  from CKN (abusing his position as a moderater in my view) was not called for - I just suggested I may go out - I didn't even say I was , its gonna sort out who you would want to be in the trenches with and when fellow forum members turn on you like that then it shows whos who

As a comment I saw about this yesterday summed it up: yes, think about this as the Blitz spirit. Those determined to go out as normal are the Luftwaffe.

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19 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

what about peoples mental health in all this? stress is a killer too 

It is, and it will be a problem.  However, from the NHS doctor earlier, they can treat depression and stress, they can’t treat this.  

To hear a doctor sh**ing himself over having to decide who will get treated and who will be left to die was sobering and showed what is coming down that road.

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said:

ok I will hold my hand up and I know I am gonna get flack for this (ckn) -yes I went to the pub last night ( it was packed)  not because I think im tough but because its what everyone in there chose to do- the young  barmaid was bewildered and ended up crying because her job was gone, closing community hubs is not the way forward this is just causing stress and panic on a scale that is more un healthy than any virus could ever be 

I do have genuine sympathy for this, some pubs might not return, it’s a hub as well as a business.  It’s people’s livelihoods and jobs.  It’s also to fight something that is to many quite abstract, you can’t see it, and at the moment we have relatively few victims so not likely to of experienced it.  

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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2 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

I do have genuine sympathy for this

Nah.

Not for the people buying the drinks last night. For the owners and workers, definitely. It's their jobs.

For the imbeciles with half a brain-cell who have decided that deliberately spreading a disease that if left unchecked could kill hundreds of thousands of people - and who know that now because this didn't arrive yesterday but over several weeks and months - is no reason to stop them having a beer ... none whatsoever. None at all.

In seven days or so, people in their households or the friends they saw that night will start to have breathing difficulties. And some won't survive.

I hope that pint was worth it.

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4 hours ago, Shadow said:

Publish details, we could all put an order in online for a slab of self medication to help his business and to help pass the time in isolation. Win - win

He is trying to work out what to do.  He only sells to pubs so everything is in either 9 or 18 gallon barrels!  I think a 9 is 72 pints ? 

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Forget the Blitz, the UK war machine can't shout. In WW2, we bombed Dresden out of spite, not for tactical reasons. We went ito Afghanistan to help fight US election campaigns. The Welsh Guards got condemned to burn on a ship in the Falklands. The officers who made that decision got knighthoods.

What we've got now is the phoney war.

It's 12.45 on the first day of lockdown and I'm bored stupid. How teenagers are coping, I can guess. On Monday, when their parents are out working, there'll be mass meetings of them in the parks. My daughter's dogs will never have had so many walks.

Things might change if the death rate accelerates but, at the moment there are relatively few terminal cases. If no great impact, I reckon that, within a fortnight, there'll be an upsurge in adults going to each others' houses for a meal and a few drinks

I don't need any sermons from the right-on handwringers. Seriously, if I catch Coronavirus and can't survive it, so be it. Like most people, I'll be staying in till the timescale means I haven't contracted it and cannot spread it to anyone.

After that, well I'm  65 and had a good knock. If I'm not up to resisting it ... well, that's basic Darwinism. I'd rather go now than  end up with dementia and having carers attending 5 times a day like my mother did.

 

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its like - Susana  reid  on good  morning Britain via video link cos shes in self isolation even though theres nowt feckin wrong with her, not helping at all

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