OMEGA Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumby Magic Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Depends on level but there's Rowan Milne's at KR. 1 Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 You’ve forgotten the best English half in the game, Jonny Lomax. Shredded Wheat Head Gale’s best hope of an international call up next year is hoping his hair come from a fella with Irish blood. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) Lomax doesn't organise like Gale does though and gales kicking game is far better. If our halfs are Lomax and Williams there would be no real vocal leadership on the pitch, but Gale can do that. Edited August 7, 2021 by Mr Frisky 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, OMEGA said: After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? Not very inspired by the names on that list. I’ve only been impressed by Will Pryce. Leeds have a promising young Jack Sinfield coming through at half back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELBOWSEYE Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Riley Dean of Warrington. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said: Lomax doesn't organise like Gale does though and gales kicking game is far better. If our halfs are Lomax and Williams there would be no real vocal leadership on the pitch, but Gale can do that. I’m sorry you have such bad opinions. Gale with shredded wheat isn’t fit to lace slap head Gale’s boots. Edited August 7, 2021 by Hela Wigmen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, OMEGA said: After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? I agree with these names, some very bright prospects, apart from: Richardson, destined for a career in the Championship, seems to have a bad attitude. Truman, can't remember the last time I saw him have a good game, although tbf he seems to have spent much of the last 2 years injured. Abdull is 25 so not exactly young, seen him play very well but seems inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, OMEGA said: After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? And more coming through, some amazing talent in the Academy set ups, Covid though has dinted much of their development which is a shame. The players listed here were on the fringes if not in 1st before covid, those a year behind are playing catch up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 hours ago, OMEGA said: After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? Is this how create an emergence of competitive international RL in the NH? 2025 World Cup Wales 6: Josh Ralph 7: Lewis Dodd England 6: Will Pryce 7: Harry Smith Ireland 6: Toby Sexton 7: Riley Dean France 6: Arthur Mourgue 7: Theo Fages Scotland 6: Callum McLelland 7: Bailey Hayward (19 y/o impressive Bulldogs NRL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Hela Wigmen said: I’m sorry you have such bad opinions. Gale with shredded wheat isn’t fit to lace slap head Gale’s boots. Any need to abuse the players rather than sticking to their playing abilities? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Frisky said: Any need to abuse the players rather than sticking to their playing abilities? Sorry, Luke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Lewis Dodd looks a cracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) Lewis Dodd looks the best of the bunch to me (of the one's I have seen). But on the wider discussion. As I have said a few times on here, despite all the possible variables, the area where we have been furthest behind the Australians for as long as I can remember is the tactical kicking. We have often said our forwards are a match and maybe they were but not when you are trying to gain dominance while your opposition has the likes of Cooper Cronk and Jonathan Thurston (not to mention Cam Smith) and their strangling kicking game. And now they have Nathan Cleary who is as good as any of them in game management. Which brings me to... which of these half backs will bring that level of game management to their game. I thought Harry Smith had as good a kicking game as I had seen at junior level but is he progressing as well as we would want? Edited August 7, 2021 by Dunbar "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WN83 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Harry Smith needs to rid his game of the really basic errors he’s making on a weekly basis. Outside of those, he comes up with some amazing plays but they’re hurting him. He seems to take the ultra attacking option at every point in the game but he needs to learn to manage games and to pick his moments. If he does that he can be whatever he wants to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, WN83 said: Harry Smith needs to rid his game of the really basic errors he’s making on a weekly basis. Outside of those, he comes up with some amazing plays but they’re hurting him. He seems to take the ultra attacking option at every point in the game but he needs to learn to manage games and to pick his moments. If he does that he can be whatever he wants to be. Bit in bold. He’s a kid. And an incredibly talented one. If he learns from the mistakes he is making, he’ll be a cracker. We are too quick to dump kids over here; usually due to the intense pressure and expectation from supporters - who expect top class quality immediately. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 9 hours ago, welshmagpie said: Is this how create an emergence of competitive international RL in the NH? 2025 World Cup Wales 7: Lewis Dodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Evans Thigh Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 We’re in a rut, we’re not producing them. It’s easier to produce big back rowers because they’re ready made. Rubbish junior coaches coaching on structure cos Michael Maguire told them wedge for a wedge for a wedge is good. 1 Formerly Alistair Boyd-Meaney fifty thousand Poouunds from Keighley...weve had im gid." MIPM Project Management and Business Solutions " Discounts available for forum members contact me for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 8 hours ago, GeordieSaint said: Bit in bold. He’s a kid. And an incredibly talented one. If he learns from the mistakes he is making, he’ll be a cracker. We are too quick to dump kids over here; usually due to the intense pressure and expectation from supporters - who expect top class quality immediately. Good point. They are young men and it really is essential that they have a good team around them to shine imo. I always thought Hull would live to regret letting Abdul go and not sticking with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 16 hours ago, OMEGA said: After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? At this precise moment I would put Abdul head and shoulders above his contemporaries, admittedly he has played longer than the others but for mine he is not void of many skills in running a game. Must say I am looking forward to seeing him in the flesh today at Leigh, on each of his last 3 visits to the LSV he has been by far the best and most influential player on the pitch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Williams, Ratchford, Lomax, Gale, Widdop Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Rowan Milnes - HKR Mikey Lewis - HKR Riley Dean - Warrington Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson, Abdul, Patton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northamptoncougar Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 There’s better half’s in league 1 than Patton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, northamptoncougar said: There’s better half’s in league 1 than Patton Not arguing but name them then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 07/08/2021 at 16:44, OMEGA said: After a number of years with very few quality young Half Backs being produced we suddenly seem to be getting a few appearing in Super League. We need these young lads to continue playing at the highest level and not get sidelined by overseas players just here for a final pay day. We've currently got Williams who’s in his mid 20s and proven at the highest level and Gale who’s never really been International standard and is now approaching his mid 30s. Ratchford who again is just below the standard required and fast approaching the tail end of his career. While Widdop was largely developed at Melbourne. The young players coming through offer a bit of hope for the future should Australia ever decide to play outside of NSW and Queensland ever again! Harry Smith - Wigan Olly Russel - Huddersfield Will Price - Huddersfield Lewis Dodd - Sts Jake Truman - Bradford/Cas Mikey Lewis - HKR Behind these there’s also Atkin, Richardson & Abdul who still have time to find some form and consistency during their careers Have I missed anyone? Not being funny but if Patton, Richardson or Abdul were ever to be international players you'd think they'd be somewhere close by now in their careers, they aren't and i doubt they ever will be anywhere near with some of the names already around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, daz39 said: Not being funny but if Patton, Richardson or Abdul were ever to be international players you'd think they'd be somewhere close by now in their careers, they aren't and i doubt they ever will be anywhere near with some of the names already around. Maybe so but all of them are still in their early to mid 20s so I won’t write them off just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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