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8 minutes ago, whatmichaelsays said:

I know for cup games it has sometimes been a factor because I think some clubs (I'm sure Man Utd is/was one) have either a compulsory or opt-in "auto cup" policy that automatically charges you for a cup ticket if the team is drawn at home. I'm sure it's great to sign-up for Champions League semis or a home FA Cup quarter final, but less appealing for those third-round Carabao cup games against Burton and Crewe. 

Arsenal also got a lot of stick for the attendances they quotes during the height of the 'Wenger out' movement. 

It’s a long way from Essex for a midweek Carabao cup 2nd round game vs Crewe. 

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These are the average attendances I have for the season so far:
 

St Helens 13196
Leeds Rhinos 12114
Wigan Warriors 11433
Hull FC 11377
Castleford Tigers 10286
Warrington Wolves 8882
Hull Kingston Rovers 7806
Catalans Dragons 7552
Huddersfield Giants 5714
Toulouse Olympique 5197
Wakefield Trinity 5180
Salford Red Devils 3977

 

Featherstone Rovers 3695
Bradford Bulls 3668
Widnes Vikings 3523
Leigh Centurions 3030
York City Knights 2411
Dewsbury Rams 1863
Barrow Raiders 1836
Halifax Panthers 1740
London Broncos 1499
Batley Bulldogs 1384
Whitehaven 1280
Workington Town 1106
Newcastle Thunder 679
Sheffield Eagles N/A

Just one figure missing for Workington v Sheffield.
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8 hours ago, Damien said:

Do any other sports argue about crowds like RL fans? In a matter of posts we go from an 1825 crowd looking creative on TV to looking more like 2500.

Barrow have been on a upward trajectory in terms of their crowds and I simply don't think they have reason to lie either way. I'm more than happy to give the club the benefit of the doubt on these things and an attendance does not equate to income so the actual attendance figure is pretty meaningless anyhow. 

We do have a number of “professional” crowd counters on this forum

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1 hour ago, fevtom said:

These are the average attendances I have for the season so far:
 

St Helens 13196
Leeds Rhinos 12114
Wigan Warriors 11433
Hull FC 11377
Castleford Tigers 10286
Warrington Wolves 8882
Hull Kingston Rovers 7806
Catalans Dragons 7552
Huddersfield Giants 5714
Toulouse Olympique 5197
Wakefield Trinity 5180
Salford Red Devils 3977

 

Featherstone Rovers 3695
Bradford Bulls 3668
Widnes Vikings 3523
Leigh Centurions 3030
York City Knights 2411
Dewsbury Rams 1863
Barrow Raiders 1836
Halifax Panthers 1740
London Broncos 1499
Batley Bulldogs 1384
Whitehaven 1280
Workington Town 1106
Newcastle Thunder 679
Sheffield Eagles N/A


Just one figure missing for Workington v Sheffield.

Very impressive for only one championship side to be in three figures. Compares favourably to the Union championship’s average of 1,276. 

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8 hours ago, fevtom said:

These are the average attendances I have for the season so far:
 

St Helens 13196
Leeds Rhinos 12114
Wigan Warriors 11433
Hull FC 11377
Castleford Tigers 10286
Warrington Wolves 8882
Hull Kingston Rovers 7806
Catalans Dragons 7552
Huddersfield Giants 5714
Toulouse Olympique 5197
Wakefield Trinity 5180
Salford Red Devils 3977

 

Featherstone Rovers 3695
Bradford Bulls 3668
Widnes Vikings 3523
Leigh Centurions 3030
York City Knights 2411
Dewsbury Rams 1863
Barrow Raiders 1836
Halifax Panthers 1740
London Broncos 1499
Batley Bulldogs 1384
Whitehaven 1280
Workington Town 1106
Newcastle Thunder 679
Sheffield Eagles N/A


Just one figure missing for Workington v Sheffield.

Excellent work that FevTom, keep it up please. I might want Fev to go up now with your sterling effort. 
I think the top five best supported clubs in the SL at the end of the season will be. 

1. Leeds 

2. Wigan

3. Saints 

4. Hull 

5. Wire

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3 hours ago, Josef K said:

Excellent work that FevTom, keep it up please. I might want Fev to go up now with your sterling effort. 
I think the top five best supported clubs in the SL at the end of the season will be. 

1. Leeds 

2. Wigan

3. Saints 

4. Hull 

5. Wire

Wigan ahead of Saints? With Leeds going backwards I think Saints could end up top, not nailed on at all but 2/1 maybe. 

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12 hours ago, fevtom said:

These are the average attendances I have for the season so far:
 

St Helens 13196
Leeds Rhinos 12114
Wigan Warriors 11433
Hull FC 11377
Castleford Tigers 10286
Warrington Wolves 8882
Hull Kingston Rovers 7806
Catalans Dragons 7552
Huddersfield Giants 5714
Toulouse Olympique 5197
Wakefield Trinity 5180
Salford Red Devils 3977

 

Featherstone Rovers 3695
Bradford Bulls 3668
Widnes Vikings 3523
Leigh Centurions 3030
York City Knights 2411
Dewsbury Rams 1863
Barrow Raiders 1836
Halifax Panthers 1740
London Broncos 1499
Batley Bulldogs 1384
Whitehaven 1280
Workington Town 1106
Newcastle Thunder 679
Sheffield Eagles N/A


Just one figure missing for Workington v Sheffield.

This is one table I’m confident Leeds will finish top off, once we finally get some home games on a Friday instead of midweek.

The premier sports tv deal doesn’t seem to have been the death of the Championship many Leigh and Featherstone were predicting.

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A guess at this wks attendances 

Wigan/Cas 9,200

Catalans/HKR 7,900

Salford/Leeds 3,200

Toulouse/Saints 5,000

Wire/Wakey 8,400

Hull/Huddersfield 10.100. 
“Championship” Worky/Bulls 1,700.
Barrow/London 1,600. 
Batley/Fev 1,800.

Dews/Newc 750. 
Whaven/Sheff 800. 
York/Widnes 2,000. 
Fax/Leigh 1,800. 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Josef K said:

A guess at this wks attendances 

Wigan/Cas 9,200

Catalans/HKR 7,900

Salford/Leeds 3,200

Toulouse/Saints 5,000

Wire/Wakey 8,400

Hull/Huddersfield 10.100. 
“Championship” Worky/Bulls 1,700.
Barrow/London 1,600. 
Batley/Fev 1,800.

Dews/Newc 750. 
Whaven/Sheff 800. 
York/Widnes 2,000. 
Fax/Leigh 1,800. 

 

 

 

 

That bad for Wigan, Salford and Warrington? I hope you’re wrong mate. 

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1 hour ago, Eddie said:

That bad for Wigan, Salford and Warrington? I hope you’re wrong mate. 

I think he may be right with Wire, a risk of lower. 

The Wakey game is often low and its the Channel 4 Saturday lunch game, and Wire have once again made zero visible effort apart from some cheap tickets again. 

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13 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I think he may be right with Wire, a risk of lower. 

The Wakey game is often low and its the Channel 4 Saturday lunch game, and Wire have once again made zero visible effort apart from some cheap tickets again. 

It's been pretty disappointing seeing Wire's efforts so far. Everything is in place at the club for it to be averaging 10k+ 

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49 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I think he may be right with Wire, a risk of lower. 

The Wakey game is often low and its the Channel 4 Saturday lunch game, and Wire have once again made zero visible effort apart from some cheap tickets again. 

I’ve seen plenty of adverts around town, what are you wanting them to do?

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44 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I’ve seen plenty of adverts around town, what are you wanting them to do?

I don't live or work in Wire so have seen nowt, their online presence for this game is pretty much limited to advertising a ticket offer. That's it. 

It mentions there is pre-match entertainment, but nothing about it. Nothing at all about the event. 

I hope they are working hard selling tickets behind the scenes, but they did a ticket offer for the Catalans game and got a low crowd too. 

We've seen some other clubs making a real effort and getting the rewards for it. 

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31 minutes ago, Spidey said:

What have the other clubs done that would be useful for Warrington?

KR, Saints and Cas have focused on the event element and all have seen positive results. 

Wire are one of the few clubs way down on their recent averages. 

I saw more effort for the bonfire night celebration. 

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20 minutes ago, Dave T said:

KR, Saints and Cas have focused on the event element and all have seen positive results. 

Wire are one of the few clubs way down on their recent averages. 

I saw more effort for the bonfire night celebration. 

What made them events though? 

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53 minutes ago, Dave T said:

KR, Saints and Cas have focused on the event element and all have seen positive results. 

Wire are one of the few clubs way down on their recent averages. 

I saw more effort for the bonfire night celebration. 

I am surprised by the low crowds at their opening home games, in recent years Warrington have been lauded for their excellent social media presence (not that I’m on Twitter or owt like that so don’t see it myself). 

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4 hours ago, Spidey said:

What made them events though? 

I'm not sure of the point you're making. Wire are an outlier with low crowds, they are massively down. 

If they get a big crowd on Sat, great, but I dont see any effort other than cheap tickets

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26 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I'm not sure of the point you're making. Wire are an outlier with low crowds, they are massively down. 

If they get a big crowd on Sat, great, but I dont see any effort other than cheap tickets

They’re pushing it on Facebook and presumably other social media platforms. Discounts for families and blue light card holders are nice ideas. 

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1 hour ago, Dave T said:

I'm not sure of the point you're making. Wire are an outlier with low crowds, they are massively down. 

If they get a big crowd on Sat, great, but I dont see any effort other than cheap tickets

I’m not trying to be awkward. What are the other clubs putting on to make it an event?  You say Warrington aren’t doing enough - what are you expecting from them?

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On 15/03/2022 at 13:15, DimmestStar said:

Hull KR's average is going to shoot up with the next 2 home games against Warrington & Hull sold out.mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmcusercontent.com%2F5ef7ce242c8e03422fc4e6450%2Fimages%2F27f8912d-2d91-b103-4869-06318fa8e29b.jpg&t=1647354410&ymreqid=4f4f70bf-2df0-c07e-2f2c-5a00eb019a00&sig=12MKsWgUPmQGNiISvHLJLA--~D

Well it is worth asking HOW literally certain clubs are building attendance.

The above is clear enough. The KR management must have worked out or gambled that gaining X amount extra supporters at £1 per family i(plus all the food, drink, merchandise plus) is going to be more (short term and long term) in the X account who would attend from that dynamic ordinarily.

I am curious to know if this is sustainable and not a Bullmaniac moment before the precipice.

I heard the Wires had a gaggle of kids in the way end. And what have Cas being up to?

Personally I think increasing attendance is a Priority ambition. 

What I would like is a costed jointly supported and enacted policy of co-ordination such as the obvious successful KR version.

Why not?

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I’m not trying to be awkward. What are the other clubs putting on to make it an event?  You say Warrington aren’t doing enough - what are you expecting from them?

There has been a combination of pushing food and drink, light shows, ticket offers, theme nights (Tonga support at Saints). 

I'm finally in a position where I can go to Wire games and I've been underwhelmed. Rubbish food and drink, lacklustre events, basically no effort. We got just over 9k vs Catalans with kids for a quid and adults at a fiver. We've gone dirt cheap again this week (which I'll benefit from, great), but look at the social media and online presence, it's really basic - "there's a game on, here's an offer, please come". 

But tbh, it doesn't matter whether I can list things they should or shouldn't be doing, we are massively under-performing versus our competitors and our recent history. 

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