Sat 12th Nov: RLWC SF: England v Samoa KO 14:30

[barnyia]

Just give the trophy to Australia, neither of these teams can beat them from today's performance anyway.

[Wendigo7]

1 minute ago, DavidM said:

Please come on and pull it together . We’re all well and truly sick of England what if , nearlies , not quites , bad luck 

If we lose the WRWC, RLWC semi final and the cricket World Cup final I’m gonna top myself lol. 

[OMEGA]

Just now, JonM said:

They had numbers for the second try because an England defender went the wrong side of the PTB. Effectively 3 v 2 at that point.

That’s not what happened, Samoa had one man on the short side and he’s marked by Young. Watkins rightly goes to the open side, if he doesn’t we would be short on that side.  
That leaves Welsby at Marker to defend their dummy half and he just switched off, even half turning his back which left Young defending 2 players

[Sports Prophet]

1 minute ago, barnyia said:

Samoa have a reduced bench due to head injuries, mcllorum isn't dangerous around the ruck and Samoa know he's going to pass, it's the same for the Catalan, 

Hopefully Samoa will tire. 

Did both fail HIA? Is there 18th man in internationals?

[DavidM]

And how can Watkins not put the ball down over the line . You simply must nail this in big games , not when you’re 50 up in a group game 

[DavidM]

Just now, Sports Prophet said:

Did both fail HIA? Is there 18th man in internationals?

3 men down 

[dkw]

Just now, Sports Prophet said:

Did both fail HIA? Is there 18th man in internationals?

Only after 3 HIA fails.

[barnyia]

Just now, Sports Prophet said:

Did both fail HIA? Is there 18th man in internationals?

After three hias you can use the 18th man they said in the commentary. 

[ELBOWSEYE]

1 minute ago, dkw said:

Davo simply will not allow disparaging anyone with a link to Wigan.....

Maybe, but we have to look at whats happening in front of our eyes, micky mac is not the only one Watkins has been terrible in defence and missing a guilt edged chance. 

[moorside roughyed]

Let's hope Wanes words at halftime have the desired effect. This performance is well below par. Should England win this the Aussies won't see a problem playing us. Come on England,let's see a different England in this most important second half.

[Davo5]

6 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

We’re just not as good as we think we are unfortunately , those group games and the easy win against PNG gave s fals sense of how good the team is. We can still win this though

It’s as if they’ve spent the week reading this forum & expected another comfortable win.

[Stanley30]

4 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

Well I suppose we can’t blame the ref so just come out with some other rubbish.

You watch that back and he got busted a lot. Not only are they running through him but there also picking him and knackering him out. Radley needs to go there. He's just not controlling it

[GeordieSaint]

I hope Welsby has had a rocket up him at half time. His decision making has been rubbish. 

Come on England.

[jacksy]

Shocked he took Radley..is he injured?

[Roy Haggerty]

2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

True, but then that calls into question Wane's entire squad selection...

I don’t disagree. I’m really conscious that we have a load of players in there who aren’t playing anywhere near as well as *they themselves* played at their peak: Watkins, McIlorum, Bateman, Tomkins, Thompson, Williams, to name just a few. 
 

but the problem I have is that there are very few options I can think of where we have obviously better players in those positions. So far, a lot of those players have rolled back the tears. But today they look much more like their faded current selves. 

[dkw]

Just now, Stanley30 said:

You watch that back and he got busted a lot. Not only are they running through him but there also picking him and knackering him out. Radley needs to go there. He's just not controlling it

They're targeting him in defence, standing back when he's at acting half as they know he's never going to run at them, let's them set their defence every time without worrying about the space behind the tackle. 

[sentoffagain2]

   Bateman has been quiet i expect him to step up in the second half.

[hindle xiii]

Have Radford and Agar left the Samoa coaching staff early? Those chumps can't possibly be part of a World Cup Final side.

Come on England.

[Davo5]

5 minutes ago, dkw said:

Davo simply will not allow disparaging anyone with a link to Wigan.....

Wow that’s as pathetic & incorrect as your ref bashing last night.

[DavidM]

They bombed a try 

[Tommygilf]

How did Samoa not score there!

[Wendigo7]

What a miss.

[Midlands hobo]

2 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

It’s as if they’ve spent the week reading this forum & expected another comfortable win. 

Doesn't matter. Oz probably expect an easy game every week. They still seem to squeeze a result.

[DavidM]

Offloads killing us . They’re making big yards 

[Wolfey Rovers]

How can we have Sam playing out the back of the halves when he spend 60% of the game at hooker????