2025 Transfer Tracker

[Ullman]

On 27/06/2024 at 05:04, MZH said:

I agree, I'd have tied him down longer, but I know there have been question marks about his fitness and about some aspects of his game so I suppose 1 year keeps him on his toes a bit. If he keeps working hard and playing the way he has recently then he will get an extention no problem. Apparently it was Cartwright that forced the clubs hand and said I want him here next season, so that bodes well.

He got some extra minutes in today in a couple of stints for the Reserves against Leigh. Played his part in a 60-4 win.

[Futtocks]

 

[Thunder Road]

1 hour ago, Futtocks said:

Not for me chef.Boomerang player.

 

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

Josh Bowden joining Donny next season.  Has been a real workhorse alongside Renouf Atoni this year.  Hopefully he can continue in the same vein for the rest of the season and help us win those  0.25 IMG bonus points before departing.

Edited July 3, 2024 by Wollo Wollo Wayoo

[The Blues Ox]

Fax confirming the rumors that Joe Keyes has signed at Bradford for next season. Contract nearly double of what he were on at Fax so its really hard to blame the lad and with Bradford having a few million to spend they should be the dominant force in the Championship for the next couple of seasons.

Matty Gee also will be following him on a contract nobody else in the Championship could touch.

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

9 hours ago, The Blues Ox said:

Fax confirming the rumors that Joe Keyes has signed at Bradford for next season. Contract nearly double of what he were on at Fax so its really hard to blame the lad and with Bradford having a few million to spend they should be the dominant force in the Championship for the next couple of seasons.

Matty Gee also will be following him on a contract nobody else in the Championship could touch.

I think Castleford might have some say in that.

[Gav Wilson]

Hashtag Culture...

 

[Harry Stottle]

1 hour ago, Gav Wilson said:

Hashtag Culture...

 

Can I just change the first sentence please:-

Harry Stottle and a good number of Leigh fans are delighted that Hull FC announce the signing of Zac Hardacre from Leigh Leopards for the 2025 Super League season.

[LeeF]

36 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Can I just change the first sentence please:-

Harry Stottle and a good number of Leigh fans are delighted that Hull FC announce the signing of Zac Hardacre from Leigh Leopards for the 2025 Super League season.

Who is Zac Hardacre?

[phiggins]

I’d be pretty wary about Myler if I were a Hull fan at the minute. Asiata is obviously a class player, but throwing extra money and extra years is easy for a rugby director to do, if the budget is there. At the same time, Hardaker is showing why Leeds only offered a him one year deal for last year, and now Hull have given him a further two.
 

The reported signing of Chamberlain is mystifying, he’s just not good enough. Holmes is solid enough, but struggled to get games. If he’s been given 2 years then I’d already be questioning the make up of the 2026 squad. Of course they could be cheap signings as back up, but if that’s the case, not sure they’re needed by a club with an academy as established as Hull’s? 

[LeytherRob]

12 minutes ago, phiggins said:

I’d be pretty wary about Myler if I were a Hull fan at the minute. Asiata is obviously a class player, but throwing extra money and extra years is easy for a rugby director to do, if the budget is there. At the same time, Hardaker is showing why Leeds only offered a him one year deal for last year, and now Hull have given him a further two.
 

The reported signing of Chamberlain is mystifying, he’s just not good enough. Holmes is solid enough, but struggled to get games. If he’s been given 2 years then I’d already be questioning the make up of the 2026 squad. Of course they could be cheap signings as back up, but if that’s the case, not sure they’re needed by a club with an academy as established as Hull’s? 

That's pretty much my thinking, the last paragraph especially. I doubt Hardaker will be on as much as he was at Leigh since we paid well over odds on much of our 2023 signings for them to take a risk on us but he certainly won't be on peanuts either. There are far better value for money options out there then 3 players past their peak(4 if you add Briscoe in). They're the kind of signings I'd be expecting a promoted club to make as a short term fix than a club looking to establish themselves back into the top end of the league.

[Harry Stottle]

10 hours ago, LeeF said:

Who is Zac Hardacre?

Not like you to be pedantic!

Edited July 9, 2024 by Harry Stottle

[redjonn]

11 hours ago, LeytherRob said:

That's pretty much my thinking, the last paragraph especially. I doubt Hardaker will be on as much as he was at Leigh since we paid well over odds on much of our 2023 signings for them to take a risk on us but he certainly won't be on peanuts either. There are far better value for money options out there then 3 players past their peak(4 if you add Briscoe in). They're the kind of signings I'd be expecting a promoted club to make as a short term fix than a club looking to establish themselves back into the top end of the league.

maybe, but in effect Hull FC are similar to a just promoted club.  So a step by step including short term fix is the right approach depending what the contract actual is, bringing in experience all be it they may be past their best. Briscoe for example is a model professional, lots of experience including winning cultures, can help develop younger players plus is a good back up if better options are signed or are already within the club. Similar to Hall going to Leeds in the twilight of his playing career.

For me Hardaker is the only odd one or should say higher or very high risk. I would expect his contract to be suitably worded that after his initial positive period and subsequent drop off's he can be off loaded easily.  The club & Myler are more than aware of Hardaker and a risk they must have considered, all-be-it they may get it wrong.

One of the problems over the recent years at Hull FC I would suggest is getting in the so called bigger names with a quick fix view and being in the top end immediately goal, rather than putting in the slower build foundations.

Edited July 9, 2024 by redjonn

[Damien]

1 hour ago, redjonn said:

maybe, but in effect Hull FC are similar to a just promoted club.  So a step by step including short term fix is the right approach depending what the contract actual is, bringing in experience all be it they may be past their best. Briscoe for example is a model professional, lots of experience including winning cultures, can help develop younger players plus is a good back up if better options are signed or are already within the club. Similar to Hall going to Leeds in the twilight of his playing career.

For me Hardaker is the only odd one or should say higher or very high risk. I would expect his contract to be suitably worded that after his initial positive period and subsequent drop off's he can be off loaded easily.  The club & Myler are more than aware of Hardaker and a risk they must have considered, all-be-it they may get it wrong.

One of the problems over the recent years at Hull FC I would suggest is getting in the so called bigger names with a quick fix view and being in the top end immediately goal, rather than putting in the slower build foundations.

I don't think Hull FC are anything like a newly promoted club and poor short term signings like Hardaker are not what they need.

[redjonn]

3 hours ago, Damien said:

I don't think Hull FC are anything like a newly promoted club and poor short term signings like Hardaker are not what they need.

maybe not but their team at the beginning of season was extremely poor and ready for a drop into Championship if it wasn't for the IMG systems and London.  So I would look at the team aspect as not up to SL standard in many if not all parts of the squad, just like a championship just being promoted.

As I said Hardaker was the odd decision the others the type a newly promoted or badly performing SL team would need as they slowly build. The benefit of the IMG system is that Hull FC don't need to do what they have in recent years, splash the cash expecting to be in the top end of SL immediately without the solid foundation that ensures you get their and stay their over the years.

[MZH]

5 hours ago, redjonn said:

maybe, but in effect Hull FC are similar to a just promoted club.  So a step by step including short term fix is the right approach depending what the contract actual is, bringing in experience all be it they may be past their best. Briscoe for example is a model professional, lots of experience including winning cultures, can help develop younger players plus is a good back up if better options are signed or are already within the club. Similar to Hall going to Leeds in the twilight of his playing career.

For me Hardaker is the only odd one or should say higher or very high risk. I would expect his contract to be suitably worded that after his initial positive period and subsequent drop off's he can be off loaded easily.  The club & Myler are more than aware of Hardaker and a risk they must have considered, all-be-it they may get it wrong.

One of the problems over the recent years at Hull FC I would suggest is getting in the so called bigger names with a quick fix view and being in the top end immediately goal, rather than putting in the slower build foundations.

Any success Hull may or may not have over the coming years will revolve around the youngsters. Moy, Martin, Charles, Balmforth, Staveley etc will all play a huge part next year. Surrounding them with solid if unspectacular players with lots of experience isn't a bad strategy imo.

[LeytherRob]

Not sure which I find funnier here, the 3 year deal or describing him as a capable goal kicker and halfback.

 

[dboy]

And now Holmes.

Not looking great at Hull FC.

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

1 minute ago, dboy said:

And now Holmes.

Not looking great at Hull FC.

Almost like they know performance is not really that important.

[LeytherRob]

10 minutes ago, dboy said:

And now Holmes.

Not looking great at Hull FC.

Yeah it's kind of funny seeing some of the Hull fans gloating on twitter as if Leigh actually wanted to keep them. Barring Asiata, they've just took all our deadwood on multiyear deals.

A potential right edge of Holmes(32), Hardaker(33) and Briscoe(35) next year for Hull is going to be an easy target for opposition attacks.

[Ullman]

2 hours ago, MZH said:

Any success Hull may or may not have over the coming years will revolve around the youngsters. Moy, Martin, Charles, Balmforth, Staveley etc will all play a huge part next year. Surrounding them with solid if unspectacular players with lots of experience isn't a bad strategy imo.

Best group of young players we've had coming through since Horne, Cooke, Yeaman and King came on the scene and from what I've seen there are more of them than in that era. Having experienced players around them is vital.

[Harry Stottle]

7 minutes ago, Ullman said:

Best group of young players we've had coming through since Horne, Cooke, Yeaman and King came on the scene and from what I've seen there are more of them than in that era. Having experienced players around them is vital.

Please believe those who have watched these players from Leigh on a regular basis, Hardaker and Chamberlain are not the roll models you think they are, they are playing with some very good players at Leigh and they stick out like sore thumbs in how inadequate their performances are, whatever it was Hardaker had is in the limbo of forgotten events and Chamberlain is simply not SL quality, but good luck to them both and to you Hull fans.

Ollie Holmes is reliable enough, and a fit John Asiata has not got any peers in a 13 jersey in SL, hopefully his injury woes are behind him.

[binosh]

Appalling recruitment from a Grade A club as big as Hull, all these players did a great job to steady the ship at Leigh after promotion but were all being released at the end of 2024 for a reason, I could understand 1 year deals at a push to help the kids but 2 and 3 years and I’m told top money aswell. I can’t see the strategy with the age of these players.

[phiggins]

I get that Hull want experience to go with their younger players. And I think Holmes is a solid signing, who I would’ve liked to see get another year at Leigh. The second year seems a bit of a gamble though. Hardaker has been discussed at length, but having signed Hardaker and Holmes, Chamberlain seems a completely unnecessary signing. 

They are in danger of getting to seasons 26 and 27 and having too much cap space already used up on players that aren’t up to the level any more. 

[Lowdesert]

16 hours ago, Ullman said:

Best group of young players we've had coming through since Horne, Cooke, Yeaman and King came on the scene and from what I've seen there are more of them than in that era. Having experienced players around them is vital.

Indeed it is mate but the problem may well be keeping all the youngsters.