2024 attendance thread

[Wellsy4HullFC]

9 hours ago, Trojan Horse said:

Wouldn’t London have binned themselves in that case?
 

You could from another perspective argue they are doing more this year because of IMG.

Exactly. If they continue to improve, they'll be an easy pick in the future.

[JonNgog]

Hard to not be a little concerned at the trend in Championship crowds this year.

Barrow - down

Batley - down

Bradford - down

Dewsbury - unknown

Doncaster - up

Fev - significantly down

Halifax - down

Sheffield - unchanged

Swinton - down

Toulouse - down

Wakefield - up

Whitehaven - down

Widnes - down

York - unknown, probably down

Edited August 5 by JonNgog

[Ainley Top]

40 minutes ago, JonNgog said:

Hard to not be a little concerned at the trend in Championship crowds this year.

Barrow - down

Batley - down

Bradford - down

Dewsbury - unknown

Doncaster - up

Fev - significantly down

Halifax - down

Sheffield - unchanged

Swinton - down

Toulouse - down

Wakefield - up

Whitehaven - down

Widnes - down

York - unknown, probably down

IMG working their magic️

[Trojan Horse]

37 minutes ago, JonNgog said:

Hard to not be a little concerned at the trend in Championship crowds this year.

Barrow - down

Batley - down

Bradford - down

Dewsbury - unknown

Doncaster - up

Fev - significantly down

Halifax - down

Sheffield - unchanged

Swinton - down

Toulouse - down

Wakefield - up

Whitehaven - down

Widnes - down

York - unknown, probably down

Being a Trinity fan it’s been very positive dropping to Championship personally for the club to reset and do exactly what Hull KR did. 
 

Although most attendances are down there are some very entertaining games in the championship and some good clubs. 
 

What it desperately needs is sponsorship and a deal like Sky for SL but one that doesn’t take the proverbial like the one that was rejected this year. 
 

I also noticed the coverage and media has fallen off a cliff this season in Championship. 

Luckily Trinity have a cracking media department who are putting out regular content of good quality but if we didn’t It would be tumbleweed. 
 

There’s a huge lack of engagement or interest in the Championhip from the RFL. There’s either a lack of drive or direction to grow the comp either. 
 

Been great been in championship this year but wouldn’t want it to be more than this season. 

[Archie Gordon]

50 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

Exactly. If they continue to improve, they'll be an easy pick in the future.

How? Sponsorship, crowds, sales, playing squad, owner interest, media exposure will all most likely slide next year. 

[Trojan Horse]

2 minutes ago, Ainley Top said:

IMG working their magic️

It’s so easy to blame on IMG when not even the first year has been completed. 
 

There’s many reasons from funding, coverage, media, promotion and it all stems from the governing body. Not IMG. 
 

 

[Archie Gordon]

46 minutes ago, JonNgog said:

Hard to not be a little concerned at the trend in Championship crowds this year.

Barrow - down

Batley - down

Bradford - down

Dewsbury - unknown

Doncaster - up

Fev - significantly down

Halifax - down

Sheffield - unchanged

Swinton - down

Toulouse - down

Wakefield - up

Whitehaven - down

Widnes - down

York - unknown, probably down

What's the source? A bit depressing, on the face of it.

[Tommygilf]

1 hour ago, JonNgog said:

Hard to not be a little concerned at the trend in Championship crowds this year.

Barrow - down

Batley - down

Bradford - down

Dewsbury - unknown

Doncaster - up

Fev - significantly down

Halifax - down

Sheffield - unchanged

Swinton - down

Toulouse - down

Wakefield - up

Whitehaven - down

Widnes - down

York - unknown, probably down

Wakey's up I bet equals a significant proportion of the downs though.

[Eddie]

50 minutes ago, Trojan Horse said:

It’s so easy to blame on IMG when not even the first year has been completed. 
 

There’s many reasons from funding, coverage, media, promotion and it all stems from the governing body. Not IMG. 
 

 

You can firmly blame IMG for removing promotion on the pitch, thus making the Championship much less attractive to spectators. 

[Fevrover]

10 hours ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

150 - 200 at a guess

Our gates are well down especially our fans going away.

[Henson Park Old Firm]

What was London's numbers?

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

17 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

Our gates are well down especially our fans going away.

Can't say I'm surprised, can't  say I blame them.

Edited August 5 by Jill Halfpenny fan

[Fevrover]

33 minutes ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

Can't say I'm surprised, can't  say I blame them.

A few reasons as well,club haven't got a clue and tell us as little as possible. 

[RugbyLeagueGeek]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

You can firmly blame IMG for removing promotion on the pitch, thus making the Championship much less attractive to spectators. 

You can firmly blame the clubs who ultimately made the decision.

[Trojan Horse]

6 hours ago, Eddie said:

You can firmly blame IMG for removing promotion on the pitch, thus making the Championship much less attractive to spectators. 

No, you can blame the clubs (including London) who voted in agreement. 

And why blame for something that could turn out to be either positive or negative. There is practically zero data as we are around halfway through year one of the new system. 
 

Sorry but presently people are using IMG as a scape goat because they don’t like that promotion has been removed on field directly. Ironically something that may improve the top sport by having less clubs who are poorly prepared like London were this season.
 

The incentive for clubs championship or other is the have clear targets. It down to them to achieve and improve but it’s set out for every team to work towards. 
 

You could argue that the governing body should be looking at ways to support all clubs at all levels to achieve higher grading. Whether that be educational or sign posting/ networking or even through any sponsorship/coverage deals for the respective leagues themselves. 

 

Edited August 5 by Trojan Horse

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

3 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Wakey's up I bet equals a significant proportion of the downs though.

The crowd at Dewsbury yesterday looked  way way above our previous two visits there. No official figure yet though.

[Snowys Backside]

Gonna throw a spanner in the works here as most think it will be a direct swap of London and Wakefield this Season. 
 

What if Wakey blow it ?  ( and it has happened numerous times !) 

Let the fun begin ?

[dboy]

13 minutes ago, Snowys Backside said:

Gonna throw a spanner in the works here as most think it will be a direct swap of London and Wakefield this Season. 
 

What if Wakey blow it ?  ( and it has happened numerous times !) 

Let the fun begin ?

Even if Wakey blow the GF, they'll have enough IMG points to be in the 12 (allegedly).

[Dave T]

13 minutes ago, Snowys Backside said:

Gonna throw a spanner in the works here as most think it will be a direct swap of London and Wakefield this Season. 
 

What if Wakey blow it ?  ( and it has happened numerous times !) 

Let the fun begin ?

I do think this is where it's a shame that they have retained P&R in this weird way. As things stand if Wakey 'blow' it this year and lose in the semi finals, they stand to finish 0.47pts lower than if they win the GF. That is relatively substantial, and is a larger gap than 12th v 13th on last year's gradings. So on field performance could be really crucial here, but we won't know this at the time, it'll be announced a few days later. 

[Gooleboy]

7 hours ago, Eddie said:

You can firmly blame IMG for removing promotion on the pitch, thus making the Championship much less attractive to spectators. 

Glorified friendlies.

[RugbyLeagueGeek]

37 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:

Glorified friendlies.

So the only thing going for the Championship is the prospect of getting out of it? Are all SL and NRL games glorified friendlies because the teams in those comps can't get promoted?

[Anita Bath]

6 hours ago, Trojan Horse said:

No, you can blame the clubs (including London) who voted in agreement. 

And why blame for something that could turn out to be either positive or negative. There is practically zero data as we are around halfway through year one of the new system. 
 

Sorry but presently people are using IMG as a scape goat because they don’t like that promotion has been removed on field directly. Ironically something that may improve the top sport by having less clubs who are poorly prepared like London were this season.
 

The incentive for clubs championship or other is the have clear targets. It down to them to achieve and improve but it’s set out for every team to work towards. 
 

You could argue that the governing body should be looking at ways to support all clubs at all levels to achieve higher grading. Whether that be educational or sign posting/ networking or even through any sponsorship/coverage deals for the respective leagues themselves. 

 

I would argue that teams who dont earn their spot in SL through their performance on the field will be poorly prepared  for the higher tier.

Lets look at what happened to Newcastle (Gateshead) when they didnt earn their place in the championship but got ‘promoted’ thanks to the old men in a committee room.  London might have been better prepared if they knew they had some prospect of retaining their place by performance on the field.

[Trojan Horse]

36 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

I would argue that teams who dont earn their spot in SL through their performance on the field will be poorly prepared  for the higher tier.

Lets look at what happened to Newcastle (Gateshead) when they didnt earn their place in the championship but got ‘promoted’ thanks to the old men in a committee room.  London might have been better prepared if they knew they had some prospect of retaining their place by performance on the field.

But that’s pie in the sky. They knew well before as did every club that it wasn’t just on field performance anymore. The majority of clubs agreed in voting and it was accepted. What ifs are exactly that.

The one thing I do think is that the club/s promoted will be behind the 8 ball recruitment wise with only 1/2 month to go till pre season. Not a lot of time to overhaul a squad. A lot of the quality gone. Though this was also the case with promotion relegation. 

The only thing I can think of is make the window later for all clubs and have the season and playoffs earlier and the challenge cup after the season. You can have gradings around a month earlier then also. I would think there could be some movement to make the fixtures work better. 
 

[dboy]

Didn't we fans (wrongly), begin with the notion that the B grade club winning the Championship, would replace the B grade club who finished bottom of SL, regardless of actual IMG points??

Doesn't that actually seem more palatable now?

[Archie Gordon]

13 minutes ago, dboy said:

Didn't we fans (wrongly), begin with the notion that the B grade club winning the Championship, would replace the B grade club who finished bottom of SL, regardless of actual IMG points??

Doesn't that actually seem more palatable now?

It always seemed more sensible.