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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I was broadly supportive of the Cup triple header, but I must admit, I haven't liked it this week. I understand the reasons, but I felt that it really watered down the Men's final, and in many of the emails Leeds and St Helens were the first mentioned teams. 

So whilst supportive of the women's game, I thought it got undue prominence in much of the promotion, and then got staged in a graveyard slot that meant nobody watched it. It's a weird positioning. 

It's a confused approach I agree. I don't know what they can do about it.

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17 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I was broadly supportive of the Cup triple header, but I must admit, I haven't liked it this week. I understand the reasons, but I felt that it really watered down the Men's final, and in many of the emails Leeds and St Helens were the first mentioned teams. 

So whilst supportive of the women's game, I thought it got undue prominence in much of the promotion, and then got staged in a graveyard slot that meant nobody watched it. It's a weird positioning. 

It's because it shouldn't be there - double (and triple) headers like this don't add value, they dilute it.

We now have a self inflicted problem because the women's final now has to be at Wembley but as long as it's there it will be played in front a small crowd at a weird time. And because of that, the game will be stuck with the women's side of things being at the 'just happy to be here', can't develop an independent audience stage.

Meanwhile, in Oz, women's Origin is being played in front of 20,000+.

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3 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

It's because it shouldn't be there - double (and triple) headers like this don't add value, they dilute it.

We now have a self inflicted problem because the women's final now has to be at Wembley but as long as it's there it will be played in front a small crowd at a weird time. And because of that, the game will be stuck with the women's side of things being at the 'just happy to be here', can't develop an independent audience stage.

Meanwhile, in Oz, women's Origin is being played in front of 20,000+.

Agreed. We've talked ourselves into tagging it onto Wembley, when I think it could have been prestigious and built it's own history rather than being a freebie add-on. 

But, if there is an easy option, that's what we'll take. It's why we keep getting poor outcomes. See also heritage World Cup teams to avoid development. 

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

Agreed. We've talked ourselves into tagging it onto Wembley, when I think it could have been prestigious and built it's own history rather than being a freebie add-on. 

But, if there is an easy option, that's what we'll take. It's why we keep getting poor outcomes. See also heritage World Cup teams to avoid development. 

It is so frustrating because RL was slightly ahead of union and cricket in terms of women's participation and game visibility and then it just ... listened to the kind of idiots who were always going to devalue it and see no route to its success other than bolting it on.

See also: Sky's women's coverage of league fixtures kicking off at 5.30pm on a Friday.

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4 hours ago, gingerjon said:

They're like that for every sporting fixture played at Wembley as, in their wisdom, that's where the corporates and some Club Wembley sit - and they're the ones coming and going to the bars, especially notable at the start of the game and just after half time.

Twickers doesn't have that problem.

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10 hours ago, gingerjon said:

It's because it shouldn't be there - double (and triple) headers like this don't add value, they dilute it.

We now have a self inflicted problem because the women's final now has to be at Wembley but as long as it's there it will be played in front a small crowd at a weird time. And because of that, the game will be stuck with the women's side of things being at the 'just happy to be here', can't develop an independent audience stage.

Meanwhile, in Oz, women's Origin is being played in front of 20,000+.

But the womens grand final is part of a triple header with the Qrl-NSW final and NRL final.  However the NrL final is the pinnacle game with others part of the days build up. There are far less than 20,000 watching the womens final. Also doing it that way probably means you need a later kick off for the challenge cup final. Not sure that would be acceptable to the BBC, or to many of the fans travelling down from the north.

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30 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:

Top effort from the Leigh fans
 

I’m not sure that is news which should be applauded. Great work from Leigh but atrocious from the Dargons.

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On 02/06/2024 at 20:51, Anita Bath said:

It is not a nightmare to get to for big games like SOO. There are direct trains running continually from central station and from western suburbs for several hours before and after the game. These are free for all fans.

Just more NSW excuses.

Direct trains to Central Station is about as useful as one chopstick. That’s only one of the two public transport trips for almost everyone and in most cases, it’s the shorter one.

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Sydney doesnt have a stadium in the CBD so by the same criteria any game will involve two chopsticks.

46000 appear to have coped with two chopsticks yesterday…and on a public holiday when public transport is less frequent.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

I’m not sure that is news which should be applauded. Great work from Leigh but atrocious from the Dargons.

I do think sometimes the Catalans stuff comes across poorly, but I'll give benefit of the doubt that there are some translation challenges and the language differences make it clumsy. 

This should have been presented as Leigh selling out all of their away allocation, and a plea to the Catalans fans to fill their seats to avoid the Leigh fans taking over their ground. 

Unfortunately it comes across as a bit small time, and if it was Beaumont saying this there would be a lot of criticism of it being amateur. 

Well done Leigh fans, should be a great atmosphere. 

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Will be travelling to Perpignan tomorrow, and very much looking forward to it. Loved it last year, and agree with McNamara's point last year, where it is such a good trip that you're not that fussed by a defeat.

On topic of attendances and this week, had Catalans away been ina  few months time, I would likely have gone to Wembley as a neutral. I wonder how many others are in a similar boat?

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6 minutes ago, phiggins said:

Will be travelling to Perpignan tomorrow, and very much looking forward to it. Loved it last year, and agree with McNamara's point last year, where it is such a good trip that you're not that fussed by a defeat.

On topic of attendances and this week, had Catalans away been ina  few months time, I would likely have gone to Wembley as a neutral. I wonder how many others are in a similar boat?

Cats trip is substantially less than last years Wembley trip with a 1 night stopover not 3

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2 hours ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

Widnes v Wakefield 4,056

Would have been far more I presume should it not have been the week after Wembley. 
 

Need a strong Widnes. Hoping the gates improve further as the season progresses. 

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It's all very weird the London Broncos thing.  Little of it makes sense. 

If I was of that mindset I'd have to wonder is it some kin of laundering scheme. 

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On 09/06/2024 at 12:10, EggFace said:

Twickers doesn't have that problem.

great final at twickenham...it was packed and a cracking game...i was with 15 other guys ,9 northerners who are big league fans, well they were!...all going again next year.

 

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On 17/06/2024 at 10:59, 40yearsatlondon said:

great final at twickenham...it was packed and a cracking game...i was with 15 other guys ,9 northerners who are big league fans, well they were!...all going again next year.

 

Have you wandered into this forum from another dimension? 

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