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14 turned up tonight and loved it so much they asked for another session on Friday after school. Not only some great athletes but some real quick learners about the game strategy and tactics in the mo

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As this topic drags on about the demise of Broncos n now Skolars in the the South some good news. After dropping out of League1 n playing in lower leagues Hemel Stags,have decided to move to a higher

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gingerjon

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3 hours ago, RP London said:

This is exactly what anyone taking over the broncos needs to be looking to do. By investing in this they would develop the game and they would give them the roots they need to be successful, it will take loads of time as while it was "booming" around that period that work started much earlier and there was a lot of work happening there in the junior set up under the likes of Caro Wild in the early 2000s. 

However, how do you "ring fence" this in anyway, legally or not? No matter where you are you can put all this in just for someone to swoop in and take the best players (could happen up north too), so "pretty much" is all you can wish for really. How, and why, do you stop people setting up clubs in areas that are keen to do so, surely you let it happen but just meet them and offer all the help you can to make it a success??

With my euromillions win, I'm buying London Broncos, the rugby club. Anyone else should be thinking the same. The community game, the other bits, they all need support and investment but muddying London the club, and London & SE the region, is a key part of the reason the game and the club are where they are.

Buying the Broncos is buying the Broncos.

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Just Browny

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19 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

With my euromillions win, I'm buying London Broncos, the rugby club.

Give over, you'll be buying the Reykjavik Kabbadi team first.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

gingerjon

gingerjon

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24 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

Give over, you'll be buying the Reykjavik Kabbadi team first.

They go in for mutual sports clubs over there, the perverts.

In "well, in which thread would I put that, then", this year's Reykjavik International Games have added darts to their list of competitions.

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Sports Prophet

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6 hours ago, Archie Gordon said:

I get the interest but as the Broncos don't own London/SE community RL, how could you buy it off them?

The new buyer could invest in community RL, sure. They could fund all manner of things and gain some control. But they couldn't own or run it. And they wouldn't need to. If they set up a scholarship/academy twinned with Brisbane that saw players experience life in both hemispheres, they'd hoover all the talent up. It would be massive for the game down here.

Let's see what happens. Nothing is clear yet.

 

 

6 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

That system is simply not how sports are organised in a legal sense.

Ironically, in practice it could actually be exactly like that described above.

 

6 hours ago, RP London said:

This is exactly what anyone taking over the broncos needs to be looking to do. By investing in this they would develop the game and they would give them the roots they need to be successful, it will take loads of time as while it was "booming" around that period that work started much earlier and there was a lot of work happening there in the junior set up under the likes of Caro Wild in the early 2000s. 

However, how do you "ring fence" this in anyway, legally or not? No matter where you are you can put all this in just for someone to swoop in and take the best players (could happen up north too), so "pretty much" is all you can wish for really. How, and why, do you stop people setting up clubs in areas that are keen to do so, surely you let it happen but just meet them and offer all the help you can to make it a success??

To “own” RL in L&SE would require something of the RFL to contractually engage a not for profit, responsible for the development of the sport. It would be no different to the RFL employing development officers, however in this guise, the club owners would be responsible for the established not for profit and in turn set their own targets, objectives and manage the delivery of any such programmes without influence from the RFL (outside delivering official RFL programmes such as coaching and match official qualifications).

It wouldn’t be “owning” in the literal sense, but with an exclusive arrangement, it could be ownership of a quasi kind. 

Tommygilf

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8 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

 

 

To “own” RL in L&SE would require something of the RFL to contractually engage a not for profit, responsible for the development of the sport. It would be no different to the RFL employing development officers, however in this guise, the club owners would be responsible for the established not for profit and in turn set their own targets, objectives and manage the delivery of any such programmes without influence from the RFL (outside delivering official RFL programmes such as coaching and match official qualifications).

It wouldn’t be “owning” in the literal sense, but with an exclusive arrangement, it could be ownership of a quasi kind. 

It would almost certainly be an exclusive arrangement, in practice. But the club owning and being solely responsible for it is a no go, because clubs come and go so easily

gingerjon

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2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

It would almost certainly be an exclusive arrangement, in practice. But the club owning and being solely responsible for it is a no go, because clubs come and go so easily

They are also two completely different things and, fundamentally, require two completely different sets of expertise.

Should the London Broncos, once confirmed as still existing, strive to have a Foundation, an Academy and support player pathways? Obviously, yes.

Should the London Broncos be the exclusive owner of all development in London and the South East, an area of about 15 million people whilst also aiming to be a successful on-the-field rugby club? Obviously not.

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Adelaide Tiger

Adelaide Tiger

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23 hours ago, olliethehut said:

If I was a willing buyer, or acting on behalf of one, I think I would also want any purchase of London Broncos to include responsibility for exclusive management of grassroots RL in London and ANY AREA SOUTH OF THE M62 AND NORTH OF BRISBANE.

Just fixed that for you...

Hey, Olliethehut …… I just fixed that for you.

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RP London

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14 hours ago, gingerjon said:

With my euromillions win, I'm buying London Broncos, the rugby club. Anyone else should be thinking the same. The community game, the other bits, they all need support and investment but muddying London the club, and London & SE the region, is a key part of the reason the game and the club are where they are.

Buying the Broncos is buying the Broncos.

Its the support and investment I'm suggesting they look at. When I was down there it was very much the RFL money and Sport England. That has dried up but London reaped the benefits of this development (or would have long term). It should not be done at the expense of the club it is an "additional" if you had the money and it is support. Those hardy volunteers need support from the top club, especially with the junior clubs and each one will need different support but the conversations need to be open and money needs to be spent. That all then leads up into the proper academy style pathway that the club should have in place to take itself seriously. 

The Broncos have a position and a job to do at the top of the London pyramid. I don't think they should be buying the whole pyramid but they need to be working with it, and (if there is spare cash) money into DO style positions would be money well spent.

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Sports Prophet

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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

They are also two completely different things and, fundamentally, require two completely different sets of expertise.

Should the London Broncos, once confirmed as still existing, strive to have a Foundation, an Academy and support player pathways? Obviously, yes.

Should the London Broncos be the exclusive owner of all development in London and the South East, an area of about 15 million people whilst also aiming to be a successful on-the-field rugby club? Obviously not.

Let me put it this way. In my fantasy position as buyer or buyers broker for the purchase of London Broncos, I would highly recommend an immediate budget of £250k per annum for 5 DOs and 1 DM.

My pitch to the RFL would be, the DM and his/her DOs will be exclusively responsible for the management and delivery of grass roots programmes in L&SE under the management of a foundation board. There could be RFL representation on that board, but the controlling interest would definitely be London Broncos affiliated.

Now should a gun to my head only be lowered if I were correct, I would be back this initiative and it’s annual £250k investment and hand over the controlling interest of grassroots RL in the region to be accepted by the RFL rather than not.

fighting irish

fighting irish

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2025-brisbane-broncos-reject-interest-in-purchasing-super-league-club-london-broncos-dave-donaghy-uk-media-reports-rugby-league-news/news-story/fbb125e5fc3463a7284fc61a760694c0

 

Where did this bl......dy rumour come from in the first place?

I'm so disappointed about this I'm thinking about turning in my subscription.

RP London

RP London

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1 hour ago, Sports Prophet said:

Let me put it this way. In my fantasy position as buyer or buyers broker for the purchase of London Broncos, I would highly recommend an immediate budget of £250k per annum for 5 DOs and 1 DM.

My pitch to the RFL would be, the DM and his/her DOs will be exclusively responsible for the management and delivery of grass roots programmes in L&SE under the management of a foundation board. There could be RFL representation on that board, but the controlling interest would definitely be London Broncos affiliated.

Now should a gun to my head only be lowered if I were correct, I would be back this initiative and it’s annual £250k investment and hand over the controlling interest of grassroots RL in the region to be accepted by the RFL rather than not.

Yes that would be great, but its not a pitch to the RFL its just something that can be done. There is nothing stopping this and it would be great for the club in London to do this. 

At the moment there is precious little so its not like you need to ask them to stop some activity to allow you to do it and equally there is no one about to muscle their way into the territory either (otherwise they would be doing that now).

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4 hours ago, fighting irish said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2025-brisbane-broncos-reject-interest-in-purchasing-super-league-club-london-broncos-dave-donaghy-uk-media-reports-rugby-league-news/news-story/fbb125e5fc3463a7284fc61a760694c0

 

Where did this bl......dy rumour come from in the first place?

I'm so disappointed about this I'm thinking about turning in my subscription.

Shock horror that would be a horrible rag in this country called the S*n.

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r1ch1e

r1ch1e

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On 20/01/2025 at 12:09, The Future is League said:

Visa pending. This is another signing for the Broncos, and possibly more to follow with the Brisbane Broncos announcement.

https://www.londonbroncosrl.com/london-broncos-sign-luke-polselli

So I've seen that he was in the country already, as he had originally signed for Rochdale Mayfield. Which on the face of it seems odd...? This is a player who's at a good age, played at NRL, in a feeder system and left to join an amateur club in England?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think this is a common move for a player of this ilk? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

He signed for Mayfield alongside Jack Wright who seems of similar pedigree winning the Queensland Cup last season. Could he be joining London too perhaps?

Worzel

Worzel

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6 hours ago, fighting irish said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2025-brisbane-broncos-reject-interest-in-purchasing-super-league-club-london-broncos-dave-donaghy-uk-media-reports-rugby-league-news/news-story/fbb125e5fc3463a7284fc61a760694c0

 

Where did this bl......dy rumour come from in the first place?

I'm so disappointed about this I'm thinking about turning in my subscription.

Like I said elsewhere, it always sounded too good to be true

Nonetheless, it seems like London have an investor coming in and that is unquestionably a good thing

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fighting irish

fighting irish

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2 minutes ago, Worzel said:

Like I said elsewhere, it always sounded too good to be true

Nonetheless, it seems like London have an investor coming in and that is unquestionably a good thing

I do hope you are right Worz' (can I call you that?). When will we know the details? 

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8 minutes ago, fighting irish said:

I do hope you are right Worz' (can I call you that?). When will we know the details? 

The one thing we can be sure of is, whoever it is and whatever their plans are, there’ll be many on this forum complaining about it. 

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