The Shay Halifax

[Phil]

News just coming through that Calderdale council have accepted Ken Davy’s offer for The Shay 

[The Blues Ox]

16 minutes ago, Phil said:

News just coming through that Calderdale council have accepted Ken Davy’s offer for The Shay 

And without Halifax Town having confirmation that they will be eligable for promotion to the EFL having 3 teams playing in the same stadium. They have sleepwalked in to a possible disaster.

A community group now has 6 weeks to register a bid which could delay the sale for 6 months but its really only delaying the inevitable.

Edited March 17 by The Blues Ox

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

And without Halifax Town having confirmation that they will be eligable for promotion to the EFL having 3 teams playing in the same stadium. They have sleepwalked in to a possible disaster.

A community group now has 6 weeks to register a bid which could delay the sale for 6 months but its really only delaying the enevitable.

I really don’t give a flying one about the wendyball club 

[The Blues Ox]

Personally I would like both Town and Fax to do well although I am finding the bleating of about 5 of their fans rather satisfying. 

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

Personally I would like both Town and Fax to do well although I am finding the bleating of about 5 of their fans rather satisfying. 

I used to follow both, but the vitriol of the football fans towards ‘Fax made me pick a side 

[The Masked Poster]

I'm struggling to see Huddersfield leaving this stadium actually. It will either be a masterstroke or consign Huddersfield to the history bin. 

[M j M]

Is anyone yet able to tell me why this is a good idea?

[Quinskolar]

Not sure how three teams can share the same stadium. There is quite an overlap of both codes seasons.

[Old Frightful]

3 hours ago, Phil said:

I used to follow both, but the vitriol of the football fans towards ‘Fax made me pick a side 

A very similar situation over in West Hull also.

[daz39]

1 hour ago, M j M said:

Is anyone yet able to tell me why this is a good idea?

Because it improves our IMG score

We won't lose as much money as we currently do at the football ground

It gives us time to stabilise the club before our own stadium is built

Ken is a successful businessman and putting the sporting side of it to one side he obviously thinks this is a good deal for him and his other business interests

More importantly it's on a bus route with a stop at the end of my road!!!!!!

[Chrispmartha]

It seems absolute madness to me, but Ken Davy must know what he’s doing.

[Old Frightful]

Has he really bought it with a view to Huddersfield playing there, even temporarily?

Seems odd if so, I would have thought it was just an investment.

He has far more brass than me so he must know what he's doing.

[M j M]

1 hour ago, daz39 said:

Because it improves our IMG score

We won't lose as much money as we currently do at the football ground

It gives us time to stabilise the club before our own stadium is built

Ken is a successful businessman and putting the sporting side of it to one side he obviously thinks this is a good deal for him and his other business interests

More importantly it's on a bus route with a stop at the end of my road!!!!!!

Inconceivable that Huddersfield moving out of Huddersfield is being met with such acceptance by fans when leaving a club's home town is usually a club killer.

What reduction in crowd size is built into this improvement of the IMG score assumption?

Does the RFL have to approve this extraordinary  move away from Huddersfield? 

[JM2010]

This move is the equivalent of Warrington moving to play in Widnes

[Anita Bath]

1 hour ago, JM2010 said:

This move is the equivalent of Warrington moving to play in Widnes

No…Widnes have a great Stadium, Halifax have the Shay.

[Worzel]

9 hours ago, M j M said:

Is anyone yet able to tell me why this is a good idea?

Because enough people don’t seem to want to support the Giants in Huddersfield and so an eventual merger in a few years after their few fans have got used to the commute might make sense?

Huddersfax Giant Blue Socked Eagles 

[Just Browny]

5 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

No…Widnes have a great Stadium, Halifax have the Shay.

The Shay is a decent stadium that could be made into a good one with a fairly modest investment. Plenty of seats; two good, not-crumbling, fully-covered terraces, sensible capacity for RL, short walk to town centre and train station.

Downsides are the quality of the grass surface and only modest amount of corporate facilities.

If Huddersfield are to make this work - and I have my doubts - they will need to go 'all out' on the fact they have full control over the ground and make it the place to be on matchdays with a good and inclusive gameday experience. 

[gingerjon]

9 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

... but Ken Davy must know what he’s doing.

There is an assumption, repeated several times on this thread, that because someone has money they must be smart and have deeply considered motivations.

I encounter some very affluent people pretty much every day. Some meet that, some were born with money, some are very successful in a field where that gets you money, but plenty have just got a bit fortunate a couple of times and held on to some decent cash as a result.

I have no idea where Davy fits in that spectrum but wouldn't necessarily assume that just because he is successful and has the money to put ideas in place, it means it's well thought through or strategic.

Sometimes a bad idea is a bad idea.

[Henson Park Old Firm]

3 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

There is an assumption, repeated several times on this thread, that because someone has money they must be smart and have deeply considered motivations.

I encounter some very affluent people pretty much every day. Some meet that, some were born with money, some are very successful in a field where that gets you money, but plenty have just got a bit fortunate a couple of times and held on to some decent cash as a result.

I have no idea where Davy fits in that spectrum but wouldn't necessarily assume that just because he is successful and has the money to put ideas in place, it means it's well thought through or strategic.

Sometimes a bad idea is a bad idea.

London Broncos....

[langpark]

22 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

There is an assumption, repeated several times on this thread, that because someone has money they must be smart and have deeply considered motivations.

I encounter some very affluent people pretty much every day. Some meet that, some were born with money, some are very successful in a field where that gets you money, but plenty have just got a bit fortunate a couple of times and held on to some decent cash as a result.

I have no idea where Davy fits in that spectrum but wouldn't necessarily assume that just because he is successful and has the money to put ideas in place, it means it's well thought through or strategic.

Sometimes a bad idea is a bad idea.

The Ken Davy comments I see on this forum usually comment about what a great man (borderline philanthropist) he is.  I don't see anyone claiming he is a genius of a sports administrator.  I know nothing about him, but after a quick wikipedia search, I see that he is 84 years old, so I give him credit for his dedication and commitment to the cause! 

He clearly has the money, and is passionate about RL.  What he needs to go with that is a team of 'experts' who know how to run a sporting organisation.  The older he gets, the more critical it becomes that he leaves the club in capable hands.

Edited March 18 by langpark

[The Blues Ox]

11 hours ago, M j M said:

Is anyone yet able to tell me why this is a good idea?

Giants moving to the Shay gets them through the 15 point mark for IMG and guarentees their SL status. If they don't move they are at risk.

The irony if a year in IMG disappear in to the distance in typical RFl style. 

[Chrispmartha]

2 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

Giants moving to the Shay gets them through the 15 point mark for IMG and guarentees their SL status. If they don't move they are at risk.

The irony if a year in IMG disappear in to the distance in typical RFl style. 

Isn’t that assuming they keep their current attendance levels though?

[Ainley Top]

1 hour ago, Worzel said:

Because enough people don’t seem to want to support the Giants in Huddersfield and so an eventual merger in a few years after their few fans have got used to the commute might make sense?

Huddersfax Giant Blue Socked Eagles 

Don't be silly!

[Gooleboy]

1 hour ago, Worzel said:

Because enough people don’t seem to want to support the Giants in Huddersfield and so an eventual merger in a few years after their few fans have got used to the commute might make sense?

Huddersfax Giant Blue Socked Eagles 

Huddersfax or Halifield,  either or!

[The Blues Ox]

8 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Isn’t that assuming they keep their current attendance levels though?

I'd be amazed if they dropped below the >3000 level.