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Not read the thread so apologies for any repetition.

Understand the disappointment in the decision. But any anger at Leigh is misplaced.

If you want to criticise their presence in Super League, then you must also question Huddersfield's, Salford's, Wakefield's, Castleford's and Hull KR's (i.e. almost half of the current cohort).

I haven't seen the applications so can't say whether the decision was right. But teams should not be discounted on the basis that they are in the heartlands. Especially when other heartland clubs 'offer' little or no more than them but happen to be in a Super League chair when the music stops.

I would love to see London or Toulouse in. But the door isn't closed. A year to build, maybe for London to sort a good stadium arrangement, and to enter on full funding and a full pre season in 2022 may be better in the long run.

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6 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Can we dust down that Bradford Bulls thread where everyone told us they were nailed on and it was a fix?

As predicted on that, people spout off, then don't mention it again when it doesn't materialise.

Whose this everyone? I think most acknowledged it wasn't possible, which has proven to be the case.

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3 minutes ago, Toby Chopra said:

This decision is only about getting a 12th team on the field in 2021 that isn't a competitive basketcase. There's no point speculating about what it means for Leigh, Superleague or the sport as a whole beyond that. It is what it is. 

Yes, I think we have to accept it in this context.

Leigh don't bring much to the top flight apart from another half empty flat pack stadium - and their natural place in the sport tends to be around the top end of the second tier and the bottom of the top one. However if we simply don't want to have the 2021 Super League to have one team being easily beaten every single week then this is the right call and I can accept it on that basis.

What needs to be urgently managed is the message being sent to expansion areas and potential investors and sponsors for whom this decision at face value is deeply regressive.

Hopefully London, York and Toulouse can pull themselves together and win promotion on the field next year - which is how it should be in sport.

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5 minutes ago, PEANUT HEAD said:

Why, I would have only been livid if it had gone to the bulls.

"Competitive team" stated as the primary reason, despite Fev making the championship final last year, London being most recently relegated and Toulouse leading the championship at the time of shut down

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Just now, Damien said:

Whose this everyone? I think most acknowledged it wasn't possible, which has proven to be the case.

Accepted, everyone was the wrong word.

But that thread was a perfect example of RL fans creating a fictitious situation to bash the authorities and be outraged, that doesn't actually happen. 

Unfortunately, I think that thread has probably been merged into this one now.

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3 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

But it is. Leigh is a small town in Wigan.

If they didn't want to be called Wigan, why on earth do they dress like Wigan?

Get that right

’ Wigan dress like Leigh’

we borrowed them our cherry and white kit. The rest is history ! 👍

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1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

"Competitive team" stated as the primary reason, despite Fev making the championship final last year, London being most recently relegated and Toulouse leading the championship at the time of shut down

Yes, its awfully reminiscent of the Toronto decision where sweeping statements will be made that stand up to absolutely no scrutiny.

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Just now, Gerrumonside ref said:

They don’t identify as Wiganers though which is the critical thing.

Look, they are in Wigan and wear Wigan clothes. They look like a duck and quack like a duck.

I'm not interested in which specific sub species of duck. They're Wigan.

Now, if there's a problem with that then maybe you're starting to see why rugby league as a sport has an image problem in convincing people that's a national, let alone international, sport.

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3 minutes ago, M j M said:

What needs to be urgently managed is the message being sent to expansion areas and potential investors and sponsors for whom this decision at face value is deeply regressive.

Absolutely, but will it come? And if it does it almost inevitably will have to be a caveat to today's decision.

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1 minute ago, Snowys Backside said:

Get that right

’ Wigan dress like Leigh’

we borrowed them our cherry and white kit. The rest is history ! 👍

That's not going to work for banter on this thread though.

But point taken.

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Just now, Tommygilf said:

"Competitive team" stated as the primary reason, despite Fev making the championship final last year, London being most recently relegated and Toulouse leading the championship at the time of shut down

I’m sure there would have been complaints that the decision made wasn’t representative of the current time had Fev or London been promoted with the primary reason being their final league position in 2019. 

The competitive team argument would have been very close between Leigh and Toulouse, you’d like to think. Bradford and York’s squads are okay, certainly not top three in the Championship, London’s has been decimated by departures, Fev’s is pretty strong but Toulouse and Leigh look to be out in front in that regard. 

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5 minutes ago, wilsontown said:

If it's not going to be Toulouse, then this is probably the correct decision. Seems like an opportunity missed though.

If it wasn't for COVID uncertainty and travel issues, I think Toulouse might have pipped Leigh on the measures of financial and playing strength. 

But then if we hadn't had COVID, I don't think there would have been a vacancy in the first place. 

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4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

"Competitive team" stated as the primary reason, despite Fev making the championship final last year, London being most recently relegated and Toulouse leading the championship at the time of shut down

Am I the only person who sees a squad full of players whove never made there mark on superleague? To me theyre clearly weaker than Toronto were this season and think the competitive team argument is weak

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10 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Of course it is. It's Wigan.

Honestly.

It's in the metropolitan borough of Wigan but is a completely different town. 

Saying it is Wigan is the same as saying all the towns of the borough of East Sussex are Eastbourne. 

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3 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Look, they are in Wigan and wear Wigan clothes. They look like a duck and quack like a duck.

I'm not interested in which specific sub species of duck. They're Wigan.

Now, if there's a problem with that then maybe you're starting to see why rugby league as a sport has an image problem in convincing people that's a national, let alone international, sport.

Now if only there was a way for Leigh to play Wigan at sport so we can see the strength of feeling on this issue...oh hang on😉

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Congratulations to Leigh, their chairman and supporters. I refuse to join in the Leigh bashing on this thread.- Good luck to you next season.

I confess I am surprised the Bulls were not promoted as the smoke signals coming out seemed to suggest that, but then it's not the first time I have got a Rugby League prediction wrong.😳

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