gingerjon Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 And some interesting comments about what passes for management culture at the RFL https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/steve-ganson-officials-rfl-review-25981145 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)
Man of Kent Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Seems Mr Ganson runs his department like some Viking king. Cnut.
Damien Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 A preseason camp in Tenerife sounds nice. Obviously the RFL aren't as skint as we are led to believe.
Jughead Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 How many times has he been stood down now? Two? Three? I’m sure he’ll be in the pubs of St Helens being loud and telling everyone who’ll listen about whatever his opinions on rugby. 1
DoubleD Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: Seems Mr Ganson runs his department like some Viking king. Cnut. This will be of little surprise to anyone, been remarks for some time and Ganson has always had that bully stance. Also no surprise that action is now being taken now Rimmer is gone
gingerjon Posted January 15, 2023 Author Posted January 15, 2023 53 minutes ago, Damien said: A preseason camp in Tenerife sounds nice. Obviously the RFL aren't as skint as we are led to believe. Given costs, it's probably cheaper to fly a few blokes out to Tenerife and have them stay in a resort off-season than pay for transport in the UK and have them stay at a conference centre. Plus people are allowed to have nice things. 10 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)
Chronicler of Chiswick Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 I always think of it as the Thug and Bludgeon school of management.
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Silverwood doesn’t hold back… Ganson sounds like a right c***. Which will hardly surprise many on here. What is more depressing is the weak organisational culture needed above him at the RFL to allow such a situation to continue for so long. Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him?
Fevrover Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said: Silverwood doesn’t hold back… Ganson sounds like a right c***. Which will hardly surprise many on here. What is more depressing is the weak organisational culture needed above him at the RFL to allow such a situation to continue for so long. Some interesting replies on the Twitter feed especially the one asking why Silverwood didn't speak out sooner.
Angelic Upstart Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Knew a bloke who was a merry flag waver, sadly no longer with us, he hated Ganson with a passion. Said "he stood on many peoples toes to get to where he was", and he was only a Ref. at that point. Edited January 15, 2023 by Angelic Upstart
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, Fevrover said: Some interesting replies on the Twitter feed especially the one asking why Silverwood didn't speak out sooner. I think Silverwood has spoken up before to be honest. I’ve seen stuff publicly that didn’t need a huge amount of decoding, and I’d be amazed if he hasn’t expressed views within the RFL. Far more likely it was brushed under the carpet by the weak Rimmer regime. 1 Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him?
Jughead Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Silverwood isn’t shy with his views on social media, sometimes bordering on bitter, but at least he gives his opinion. 2 1
Wire quin Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 We've lost some good referees during Gansons reign. Lets hope it wasn't due to him and if so why didn't the RFL act sooner 3
The 4 of Us Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said: ….. What is more depressing is the weak organisational culture needed above him at the RFL to allow such a situation to continue for so long……. Absolutely this but at the same time perhaps if it were tolerated, it was also symptomatic of the general approach by senior management at the RFL to those below. When one ref leaves it’s unfortunate but when it’s a steady flow as appears to have been the case for a few seasons it’s symptomatic of the malaise and sadly it appears it’s needed the departure of Rimmer for this to happen. In the article Child refers to the “in your face criticism of League” which I think is a symptom in the game which persists all the way down to grassroots which holds the game back, when other sports might have a focus on participation and enjoyment. Part of League’s strength is that it was born out of adversity and to an extent has continued to wear that on its sleeve, but we need to move from believing that those that appear to share Ganson’s approach, have a “professional” approach to anything? 3 http://www.wiganstpats.org Producing Players Since 1910
Blind side johnny Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, gingerjon said: Given costs, it's probably cheaper to fly a few blokes out to Tenerife and have them stay in a resort off-season than pay for transport in the UK and have them stay at a conference centre. Plus people are allowed to have nice things. Off-topic, but it isn't off-season in Tenerife. 1 Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change.
gingerjon Posted January 15, 2023 Author Posted January 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Off-topic, but it isn't off-season in Tenerife. I have no idea but given you can fly to Mauritius for the cost of a peak time London to Lancashire train ticket, I still wouldn't assume it was more expensive than getting together in Skegness. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)
RigbyLuger Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 4 hours ago, gingerjon said: And some interesting comments about what passes for management culture at the RFL https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/steve-ganson-officials-rfl-review-25981145 "Who are Steve Ganson's favourite match officials? You won't believe who is number 3!" 1 8
JohnM Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 57 minutes ago, gingerjon said: I have no idea but given you can fly to Mauritius for the cost of a peak time London to Lancashire train ticket, I still wouldn't assume it was more expensive than getting together in Skegness. ER......it's Skegvegas. 1 1
Ragingbull Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Oxygen thief whos been stealing a living for years. The prikc deserves everything he gets. Edited January 15, 2023 by Ragingbull
yanto Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wire quin said: We've lost some good referees during Gansons reign. Lets hope it wasn't due to him and if so why didn't the RFL act sooner In June I went to work in the UK for the first time in 25 years. Massive construction job...long term...great money but walked away at Christmas. When asked why I was leaving I gave a quote I once read. "Good men dont walk away from good jobs they walk away from bad management" Seems this has been the case in the Refereeing department. Edited January 15, 2023 by yanto 4 1
Chris22 Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) We've had referees leave citing bullying, homophobia and intimidation and allegations that Rimmer ignored formal complaints about this. Is it a coincidence that Ganson is suspended a month after Rimmer leaves? Given the nature and extent of allegations (over the last 6 years), it's outrageous this investigation has taken so long to be launched. Edited January 15, 2023 by Chris22 5
Midlands hobo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Damien said: A preseason camp in Tenerife sounds nice. Obviously the RFL aren't as skint as we are led to believe. Sure it wasn't a preseason camp of ten in fife? 1
Midlands hobo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 3 hours ago, gingerjon said: I have no idea but given you can fly to Mauritius for the cost of a peak time London to Lancashire train ticket, I still wouldn't assume it was more expensive than getting together in Skegness. Train tickets are not a great comparison really, I'm sure I can fly to the international space station cheaper than a London to Lancashire ticket 1 1
Futtocks Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Midlands hobo said: Train tickets are not a great comparison really, I'm sure I can fly to the international space station cheaper than a London to Lancashire ticket ...and get there quicker. You'd have a guaranteed seat and everything. Seriously, I wonder if we'll see any familiar names returning to refereeing the game, if Ganson's permanently gone. 1 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson
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