England players to get £250 match fee

[bobbruce]

2 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

I know they earn millions but don't England soccer play for free or match payments donated to charity.

Maybe we should not announce renumeration but do the same 

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They firstly made a big thing about them being ripped off by the governing body by being under paid. Then once they got the extra money choose as a squad to give it to charity. 

[Sports Prophet]

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Dare say I may get pelters for this (as I have done in Twitter to an extent), but short of covering expenses, I don’t see why playing at international level should be in any way financially driven. 

I appreciate your point but it is risk v reward and I am sure you appreciate that, despite your sentiments.

Surely with this repulsive pay day on offer (which is surely similar for the French players), we can expect a whole host of players pull out with injury.

Do us all a favor and cancel the damned game now. It is an abomination and preposterous.

Edited June 17 by Sports Prophet

[JohnM]

One source claims that at the Euros 2024:

"It is understood that England players earn around £2,000 per game - but since 2007, they have been donating that money to the England Football Foundation, which then distributes it to charities, raising more than £5 million in the last 17 years.

So, although players could earn up to £14,000 if they make it to the final of the Euros, they will not see any of it.  As well as a standard match fee, England players are set to receive a bumper payday if they lift the trophy next month, with the Sun reporting that the squad are set to share a whopping £24m bonus if they are crowned champions. Remarkably, the publication reports that captain Harry Kane and Real Madrid star Jude Bellingham will share £9.6m of that amount between them, with Southgate in line for a £4m bonus.

The remaining £14m will be shared among the other 24 players in the squad, with the total bonus amount eclipsing the £13m that was up for grabs for the Three Lions at the 2022 World Cup.

[JohnM]

Rugby Union

https://www.rugbyworld.com/news/england-squad-agree-equal-pay-for-six-nations-122129

[Wakefield Ram]

2 hours ago, The Future is League said:

As everyday passes out game gets less positive media coverage. This will get media coverage, but not the positive coverage the game needs.

But I thought IMG were re-imagining RL and players were to become household names...

[Hopie]

2 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Dare say I may get pelters for this (as I have done in Twitter to an extent), but short of covering expenses, I don’t see why playing at international level should be in any way financially driven. 

As the article points out, the NRL players didn't get all their expenses paid last year, Mr Burgess had to pay for the upgrade from standard class for his flight over.

However I also remember seeing a documentary about Don Revie being England manager where he announced to the players he had increased their match fees at the first meeting, the players took it as a sign he didn't understand why they were playing for England. So I can see your point, although it sits less well in a sport where players not being paid properly is the reason it exists.

I imagine £250 was a better deal than a percentage of the gate on this occasion...

[JohnM]

6 hours ago, The Future is League said:

As everyday passes out game gets less positive media coverage. This will get media coverage, but not the positive coverage the game needs.

I expect you have the data to support that bizarre contention.  Do share it. 

 

[gingerjon]

9 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Dare say I may get pelters for this (as I have done in Twitter to an extent), but short of covering expenses, I don’t see why playing at international level should be in any way financially driven. 

That might work if (a) the majority of players were earning soccer amounts of money from their clubs and/or (b) the international games were prestigious enough in their own right to not require a payment.

[Wakefield Ram]

The main problem with the France match is it will not be competitive. England will just post yet another cricket score. Went to a couple of Tonga games last season and looking forward to Samoa. 

[Leyther_Matt]

9 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

I appreciate your point but it is risk v reward and I am sure you appreciate that, despite your sentiments.

Surely with this repulsive pay day on offer (which is surely similar for the French players), we can expect a whole host of players pull out with injury.

Do us all a favor and cancel the damned game now. It is an abomination and preposterous.

8 hours ago, Hopie said:

As the article points out, the NRL players didn't get all their expenses paid last year, Mr Burgess had to pay for the upgrade from standard class for his flight over.

However I also remember seeing a documentary about Don Revie being England manager where he announced to the players he had increased their match fees at the first meeting, the players took it as a sign he didn't understand why they were playing for England. So I can see your point, although it sits less well in a sport where players not being paid properly is the reason it exists.

I imagine £250 was a better deal than a percentage of the gate on this occasion...

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

That might work if (a) the majority of players were earning soccer amounts of money from their clubs and/or (b) the international games were prestigious enough in their own right to not require a payment.

Completely understand the risk aspect, but again that would be another conversation if the RFL had told players they had to pay for their own insurance. Maybe that’s next week’s story(!)

NRL players having to pay their own expenses is an utter joke, completely agree with that.

Just feels a bit of an about turn when next week the story won’t be about how low the match fee is, it’ll be what a disgrace Catalans and Toulouse are for withdrawing their players from the squad.

I think we can probably all agree that the whole thing is just symptomatic of what a farce our international game is. 

[whatmichaelsays]

58 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Completely understand the risk aspect, but again that would be another conversation if the RFL had told players they had to pay for their own insurance. Maybe that’s next week’s story(!)

Insurance only covers so much. 

I don't know how many current or prospective England players are out of contract this year, but any that are would be insane to risk any future contract and earnings for such a miserly "reward". 

[Damien]

Hope no one gets sent off, they will be fined far more than they are actually getting paid!

[Tommygilf]

53 minutes ago, Damien said:

Hope no one gets sent off, they will be fined far more than they are actually getting paid!

That's the ludicrousness epitomised.

Edited June 18 by Tommygilf

[BadlyOverdrawnBoy]

But it's not just £250 - they get a slice of orange at half time.

[Eddie]

15 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Hastings pay more than that in Division 8.

Which is ridiculous in itself. 

[Tommygilf]

42 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Which is ridiculous in itself. 

It's not though, this really is a tiny sum of money.

[Dunbar]

2 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

NRL players having to pay their own expenses is an utter joke, completely agree with that.

The NRL players bumped themselves up from premium economy to business class... they had previously flown business class.

I'm not as critical of this one to be honest.  I have worked for several businesses with a hell of a lot bigger turnover than the RFL and never flown business class on a long haul flight with work.

[Eddie]

14 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

It's not though, this really is a tiny sum of money.

A tier 8 team paying 17 players £250 for a match is a bit ridiculous imho. That’s £4,250. At a tenner in the first 425 on the gate would be needed just for that cost, much more actually with on costs and tax. The manager and possibly coaches will be getting paid too. Non league teams go bust all the time for this reason. 
 

But £250 for players representing England is pitiful I agree. 

Edited June 18 by Eddie

[Dave T]

The bit I struggle with here is how poor we are at managing our PR. It is like watching the Tory government at times.

The article says that the previous payments have been between £500 and £1500 or something - so to pay the players the £500 at the lower end it would probably cost a further £6k. I can't help but feel that for that sum we really should have taken the cost and been scrapping round for any sponsor of any kind to cover that. 

We are just making ourselves look small-time, giving people plenty of ammo to criticise the sport over here. 

It really is things like this that will pee off players and it's no wonder that they would clear off to either other sports or the NRL if this is what our peak is offering. 

[Guest]

If only the French could put a competitive team together this fixture could be a money spinner for us and France in future.  Someone needs to get involved and do a McNamara or a Southgate with the squad as they have the players if they all turn up and play. Which they NEVER do. More hope than relying on teams from down under cooperating. 

[Wakefield Ram]

1 hour ago, BadlyOverdrawnBoy said:

But it's not just £250 - they get a slice of orange at half time.

And after the match they get complementary bread and dripping...

[48C North Stand]

I can understand that a player's expenses might have to be paid in terms of travel to the base camp. But if I was given the honour of representing my country I wouldn't expect any payment beyond that. 

It's a shame everyhing seems to have a monetary value attached now. 

[DG70]

Better than a dig in the ribs but only just....

[Archie Gordon]

1 hour ago, Dunbar said:

The NRL players bumped themselves up from premium economy to business class... they had previously flown business class.

I'm not as critical of this one to be honest.  I have worked for several businesses with a hell of a lot bigger turnover than the RFL and never flown business class on a long haul flight with work.

Fair - but were you required to be in physically tip-top shape in the meetings?

[Whippet13]

Does anyone know if this report is true or indeed the full story? Are the players getting other financial allowances in addition to the actual match fee which bump the figure up? Has the payment been discussed with the players and do they support or oppose it? How much will England women get paid for their game?

Just curious as to what the the full picture is as not seen this mentioned elsewhere (would expect SARL to be all over it by now) and the "i" isn't known for its detailed investigative RL sources - looks like they publish online around one RL-related article per month.