When do we find out the SL teams for next season based on IMG ratings?

[Harry Stottle]

On 20/07/2024 at 23:22, The Daddy said:

Toulouse's potential

Don't those words just roll of the tongue, trouble is they have not been realised yet and I doubt they ever will in a city of over 1/2million where the locals couldn't care less if Rugby League even existed.

Anyway, awaiting with interest what the SL Chairmen's attitude will be if Toulouse get the nod, should be very interesting.

[Harry Stottle]

On 21/07/2024 at 05:51, Eddie said:

There is definite potential and like many in this forum I desperately want to see TO do well, but there’s also zero evidence to suggest their crowds would be better than Leigh’s, even if they had an extended period in SL. 

There's one thing, Toulouse won't be putting anything more than Leigh in the coffers at other SL clubs, either in entrance money or in stadium sales, on this side of the Pennines that will go down well at Wigan, Saints, Wire and Salford, and the same can be said for the East side with Cas and Wakey.

[Harry Stottle]

On 21/07/2024 at 06:21, JohnM said:

In general terms, and accepting there doesn't seem to be this particular element in the "Re-imagining Rugby League" rankings, I'd say, just like Toronto, they helped to break down the "Northern Parochial Sport" barrier that has penned in  the game ever since the invention of the motor car and live television.

Rubbish John, if Catalan and Toulouse went out of buisness tomorrow like Toronto did, it would not matter a jot to the league still functioning in it's Northern Parochial heartlands.

[Harry Stottle]

On 21/07/2024 at 08:07, Gooleboy said:

If TO win the GF they deserve to go up, they will have done it fair and square as it should be. But like last time, some on here keep saying what they will bring, but can't explain what it is, like it's some magical stardust.

Potential Gooley Potential, it is a recurring theme on these pages with no substance attached.

[Harry Stottle]

10 hours ago, Eddie said:

I understand what you’re saying but I (a Sky sports subscriber) am far more likely to tune in to watch Catalans than I am Salford. That’s nothing against Salford, it’s just the way I feel, and a I doubt that’s unique. So even if there isn’t a French tv deal there is at least one viewer extra that Sky get from showing the Dragons ahead of another M62 team there to make up the numbers. 
 

I also wouldn’t lump York in with Bradford and Widnes, both of whom are historic giants of the game and have won the WCC. 

That's just personal preference Eddie, in my case I would sooner watch Salford than Leeds, far far more entertaining.

[phiggins]

On 19/07/2024 at 17:52, The Daddy said:

Will it be at the end of the season? Or before?

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62699/reimagining-rugby-league-–-grading-timetable,-2024

[Blind side johnny]

1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

Rubbish John, if Catalan and Toulouse went out of buisness tomorrow like Toronto did, it would not matter a jot to the league still spiralling down in it's Northern Parochial heartlands.

Fixed your typo Harry.

[phiggins]

10 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

It's not 1 club, but clearly we only have 7 clubs up to super league standard. We lost Bradford. We could lose more.

We can't afford that.

But in reality, we lost the Bradford club that you refer to a few years before they were relegated.

The Bradford club that were relegated were financially mismanaged off the pitch and uncompetitive on it. This system wouldn't have stopped that decline, just like licensing didn't stop the decline back then.

[Harry Stottle]

10 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

It's not 1 club, but clearly we only have 7 clubs up to super league standard.

Go on then Tommy I will bite, the bar is set ridiculously low for 7 clubs to be initially deemed the elite, no one saw that coming.

[oiseau]

If you’re going on merit, from what I’ve seen so far this season and last. Neither Wakey or Toulouse are anywhere close to SL standard any more than Toulouse, London or Fev were last season.

Why not just have an eleven team SL ?

[fighting irish]

1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

Potential Gooley Potential, it is a recurring theme on these pages with no substance attached.

It's a bit like the Wigan Warrington Las Vegas affair.

Everyone says its a huge opportunity for the game (SL) but I'd like to see some measurable goals and the performance of the project measured against the goals when it's done.

There doesn't seem to be any of that, just some vague ''sounds good'' type spin. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, oiseau said:

If you’re going on merit, from what I’ve seen so far this season and last. Neither Wakey or Toulouse are anywhere close to SL standard any more than Toulouse, London or Fev were last season.

Why not just have an eleven team SL ?

How are Wakey not SL standard next year? They have the fans/stadium/money and the squad isn't far off and will be SL standard if promoted.  They'll be a stronger club than at least 3 of your mythical magic eleven and when the elite super untouchable grade A clubs mostly struggle to break 10-12k most weeks and are incapable of growth it's not far to reach.

[JM2010]

1 hour ago, oiseau said:

If you’re going on merit, from what I’ve seen so far this season and last. Neither Wakey or Toulouse are anywhere close to SL standard any more than Toulouse, London or Fev were last season.

Why not just have an eleven team SL ?

Wakefield have signed Mike McMeeken, Tom Johnstone, Cam Scott, Corey Hall, Olly Russell and possibly Jake Trueman for next season already so will be much stronger than they are this season 

[Snowys Backside]

16 hours ago, PECETTO said:

When was this match with 4000 annonced and only 900 ? 

A match v Leigh a few years ago now. Carl Hall kicked a penalty to win by 2. Leigh took a good few hundred fans. Could have been 2018.

[PECETTO]

1 hour ago, Snowys Backside said:

A match v Leigh a few years ago now. Carl Hall kicked a penalty to win by 2. Leigh took a good few hundred fans. Could have been 2018.

This match was played in Albi in a 12000 sits stadium and organized by the club of Albi. I was at the sponsor réception and we were 650 belote the match. I rewatch the match today, and the grandstand was 3/4 full. The opposite stand was 1/3 full. The official attendance was 5350 . 

[lucky 7]

5 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

There's one thing, Toulouse won't be putting anything more than Leigh in the coffers at other SL clubs, either in entrance money or in stadium sales, on this side of the Pennines that will go down well at Wigan, Saints, Wire and Salford, and the same can be said for the East side with Cas and Wakey.

Or Salford Red Devils.

[Click]

29 minutes ago, PECETTO said:

This match was played in Albi in a 12000 sits stadium and organized by the club of Albi. I was at the sponsor réception and we were 650 belote the match. I rewatch the match today, and the grandstand was 3/4 full. The opposite stand was 1/3 full. The official attendance was 5350 . 

But he could only count up to 900, so.. 900 attendance it was.

[Snowys Backside]

1 hour ago, Click said:

But he could only count up to 900, so.. 900 attendance it was.

And this is the problem. If it was the size of Wembley, fair enough

I has my glasses on too! 

[Eddie]

5 hours ago, fighting irish said:

It's a bit like the Wigan Warrington Las Vegas affair.

Everyone says its a huge opportunity for the game (SL) but I'd like to see some measurable goals and the performance of the project measured against the goals when it's done.

There doesn't seem to be any of that, just some vague ''sounds good'' type spin. 

To be fair I dont think it’s a huge opportunity for the game either, more a one off with zero benefit afterwards, but it is great that it’s happening; something new and exciting rather than the usual trips along the M62. I thought the same about the Cats v Wigan game at the Nou Camp. 

[Lowdesert]

7 hours ago, phiggins said:

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62699/reimagining-rugby-league-–-grading-timetable,-2024

Might just be a clue in there which way this is going to go.   Imo, of course.

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

7 hours ago, phiggins said:

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62699/reimagining-rugby-league-–-grading-timetable,-2024

This is going to be so much fun.

[ATLANTISMAN]

The way forward IMHO for what it's worth (And everyone knows i am a big supporter of French Rugby League) is that its imperative that we fish where the fish are and start supporting traditional clubs that have fallen on harder times.

Oldham is a prime example

London is important and needs to be nurtured for development as there is so much talent there,but as for where the Broncos play Kent (Ebbsfleet) would be a far better long term option.

Rugby League needs to use the England brand to expand the game, we now have  8 test March playing nations that would attract good crowds outside of the heartlands if promoted right.Lets be honest RL fans only turn up for Australia and New Zealand thats it put England v France on in let's say Plymouth and the potential to draw a crowd is 5 times more than Leigh/Warrington wherever up north.

After which if someone starts an amateur team its a win win.

With France the ONLY reason the Dragons kicked on was because of the tradition of rugby league in Perpignan if it would have been planted there forget it.

We are at a crossroads right now the NRL will either come in and start a new league with maybe 2 French clubs and one far out franchise or we have simple promotion and relegation as now.

My opinion for what is worth is

* NRL will come in for a 10/12 team league and if they do that will include 2 teams in France London and one off the wall franchise.

* Winning Championship club can apply to join as the league should always look to increase initially.

* England brand used for promotion of the game

* Sky OUT internal streaming channel with one match FTA to drive subscribers.

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Edited July 22 by ATLANTISMAN

[phiggins]

25 minutes ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

This is going to be so much fun.

I'm amazed that there are people that think that not telling clubs which league they will be in until 4 and a half weeks after their last league game is actually ok.

[Griff]

19 minutes ago, phiggins said:

I'm amazed that there are people that think that not telling clubs which league they will be in until 4 and a half weeks after their last league game is actually ok.

It's one of the great weaknesses in the system, though I suspect that there won't be much division-swapping not so far into the future.

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

19 minutes ago, phiggins said:

I'm amazed that there are people that think that not telling clubs which league they will be in until 4 and a half weeks after their last league game is actually ok.

That would be more of an issue if there were actually going to be unexpected changes which I very much doubt (although I live in hope that there is at least one surprise to send folk into meltdown).