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When you glance through an opposition team sheet are there any players that make you think, "oh no, not him".

It may well be just your perception and cold hard facts may not back it up but then again....

As a Widnes fan, to me three come to mind who are constant pains in the rear no matter what else changes.

Number 1 and unfortunately still fresh to mind is Jarrod Sammut.  Ruined many of my afternoons or evenings by coming up with tries, drop goals or decisive breaks that result in us losing the game. Annoys the life out of me.

Number 2 is Josh Charnley.  I never like losing players to punt and grunt but in his case was prepared to make an exception. Always good for a couple of tries against us both before and after his dark side stint. Believe he's up amongst the top try scorers in superleague history, love to know where Widnes stands in his tries per game stats.

Number 3 is Thomas Leuluai, no idea what his try scoring proficiency is like overall but know its pretty good against us, always good for at least one try a game.

 

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17 hours ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

When you glance through an opposition team sheet are there any players that make you think, "oh no, not him".

It may well be just your perception and cold hard facts may not back it up but then again....

As a Widnes fan, to me three come to mind who are constant pains in the rear no matter what else changes.

Number 1 and unfortunately still fresh to mind is Jarrod Sammut.  Ruined many of my afternoons or evenings by coming up with tries, drop goals or decisive breaks that result in us losing the game. Annoys the life out of me.

Number 2 is Josh Charnley.  I never like losing players to punt and grunt but in his case was prepared to make an exception. Always good for a couple of tries against us both before and after his dark side stint. Believe he's up amongst the top try scorers in superleague history, love to know where Widnes stands in his tries per game stats.

Number 3 is Thomas Leuluai, no idea what his try scoring proficiency is like overall but know its pretty good against us, always good for at least one try a game.

 

Strictly on the Widnes theme, as a Leigh fan Danny Craven pulls out all the stops against us time and again, 2 or 3 years ago when it looked as though he was coming to Leigh, I thought thank God for that we at least don't have to play against him.

Does he save his best for Leigh, or are they just a normal performance from him.

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As a York fan, Jack Bussey & Craig Hall. Sick of the sight of them both.

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1 hour ago, Anita Bath said:

As a great britain fan it was Eric Grothe. I would have needed a change of undies if he had run at me like he ran at the British wingers

I had to re-read that and then I realised.  Wingers.

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None these days but Paul Medley used to rip us apart regularly.

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It was always the half backs: Shane Cooper, Rob Burrow, Alex Murphy.... 

 

I'm interested in that drive, that rush to judgment, that is so prevalent in our society. We all know that pleasurable rush that comes from condemning, and in the short term it's quite a satisfying thing to do, isn't it?

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1 hour ago, FearTheVee said:

Liam Farrell has done a lot of damage to Saints over the years.

Him and O’Loughlin would, without fail, put in ridiculous performances against Saints. 

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Frank Botica. Could kick goals from everywhere, and ruin your day with a last minute penalty on the half way line, near touch, with his wrong foot, blindfolded with a chicken on his head!

I may have exaggerated.

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On a similar theme, players who fill you with dread but then go on to play for your team.

For Widnes I'm thinking Dennis Moran and James Webster specifically. 

I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks.

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15 hours ago, David Shepherd said:

Right now:

Joe Mellor - Best half in the championship

Jarrod Sammut - Will always ruin your day

Adam Tangata - Total sh*thouse who will seriously injure someone one day. 

WTF? Tangata Really? Im sorry Im totally baffled by that comment. From our team if we were going to pick players with a bit of niggle in their game theres at least 3 that I would pick before him.

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Not so much names that fill me with dread but more a sense of excitement to see these players - Oledzki, Leeming, Bevan French, Tom Johnstone, Mason Lino, Trueman, Ashton, Mikey Lewis, Tomkins, Gigot, Pryce, Sio, Connor.

I will have missed a few out there, not purposeful, just so much talent in our game. 

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Wally Lewis, as a young teen watching him just tear GB teams (and teams generally) apart, hated him mainly as i just could not see why he was so good, thought he was over rated, he wasn’t big, (not really) he didn’t look fast or elusive, but was deceptively both, stronger than he looked tougher more skilful, just wish looking back I could appreciate with adult hindsight how good he was when i watched him in the flesh. Still dreaded him though.

see also Andy Gregory. 

Nobody in the modern era certainly currently playing seems to have the same effect don’t know weather its age or just the game does not have the real genius talents anymore. Good exiting players but not these enigmas . 

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28 minutes ago, Live after death said:

Wally Lewis, as a young teen watching him just tear GB teams (and teams generally) apart, hated him mainly as i just could not see why he was so good, thought he was over rated, he wasn’t big, (not really) he didn’t look fast or elusive, but was deceptively both, stronger than he looked tougher more skilful, just wish looking back I could appreciate with adult hindsight how good he was when i watched him in the flesh. Still dreaded him though.

see also Andy Gregory. 

Nobody in the modern era certainly currently playing seems to have the same effect don’t know weather its age or just the game does not have the real genius talents anymore. Good exiting players but not these enigmas . 

That’s an interesting point, one I considered myself. I grew up in an age were my teams greatest rivals were miles ahead, with obvious reason, but had some incredibly exciting players like Hanley, Robinson and Paul, real edge of the seat players. Then after a period of success for my own team I watched another rival have their own amazing era with exciting players like Burrow. The game has changed quite a bit in itself and, with the odd exception, most teams seem to take a conservative approach, concentrating on set completion etc. That’s why I love to see the exciting players like Connor who try something different.

I think part of it is age, part is where my team are but part of it is also the way the game has changed. When I watch the skill levels of Johnstone or Connor this weekend I just want to see more of that but I don’t fear their name on a team sheet.

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1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said:

WTF? Tangata Really? Im sorry Im totally baffled by that comment. From our team if we were going to pick players with a bit of niggle in their game theres at least 3 that I would pick before him.

I agree, that's a strange one. Think he's maybe a bit fortunate not to get any ban for his late hit on Sunday, but I've never thought of him as a dirty player, any more than Wildie is after one late hit in the same game.

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