Wakefield certain to go down - What next?

[Expatknight]

It’s a sad fact that people enjoy kicking you when you are down, most follow clubs who have been in a similar position at some point during their existence, they profess to love our game yet knock the very essence of it , we need all our clubs to survive and prosper. Without them we have no game. 

[Agbrigg]

12 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Totally agree Aggers, as a Leigh fan I was stood at the top of the steps on the popular end and you could see the pain on what I imagine would be loyal fans faces as a lot were leaving early do you reckon their patience will run out on this season?

Harry, many have lost their patience already.  I went to the flats end in those stupid seats for the first half. Looking across I could see that the North Stand behind the sticks was the most sparse I have seen it this season. That stand is where the vast majority of our supporters go. 

I will also not be buying a season ticket next year and I could never believe it would come to this. I will still follow the club , but pick the odd game. I have lost total faith how the fiasco of the club is being run. Once Carter has left and hopefully people of competence are running the rugby side then things will change and I will be back for every game

[Taffy Tiger]

2 hours ago, Fevrover said:

That's the million dollar question-WHEN ?

Hi Fevrover , as far as I know it  goes to a council planning committee in June. If approved work can then start . Funding is in place for a new (all seater) main stand and a general upgrade of rest of ground . Capacity will be slightly reduced to a little over 10k as a result of works carried out. 

[phiggins]

I do have a lot of sympathy for Wakefield's fans. The showing in the second half yesterday was simply unacceptable, as is being nilled in 5 out of the first 9 games of the season. I think if Batley had won last year's championship grand final, they'd have posted more points than the 47 Wakefield have so far. 

Have to say, given the record this season, I wouldn't be choosing Insomnia as the track to play while waiting for players to come out, as I guess sleep has been quite easy to come by at Belle Vue this season.

The new East stand is looking impressive, and it's completion can't come soon enough, because the West stand is genuinely awful. It reminded me of Hilton park, but with considerably less space, and impossible to see because the steps were so shallow.

[JonM]

44 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

I have lost total faith how the fiasco of the club is being run. Once Carter has left and hopefully people of competence are running the rugby side then things will change and I will be back for every game

You've had probably the lowest revenue, lowest playing budget, worst facilities etc. pretty much every season of the ten he has been in charge. There's an argument that Mr. Carter has worked wonders when you consider that Hull KR, Bradford, Widnes and Leigh have all been relegated on significantly bigger budgets in that period.

[RP London]

38 minutes ago, Taffy Tiger said:

Hi Fevrover , as far as I know it  goes to a council planning committee in June. If approved work can then start . Funding is in place for a new (all seater) main stand and a general upgrade of rest of ground . Capacity will be slightly reduced to a little over 10k as a result of works carried out. 

I have a couple of mates working on the project in slightly different areas and they are getting very frustrated by the hold ups, some are down to objections that are linked to the "other site" rather than the ground.. sounds maddening! They are keen to get moving on it (not least because they can start invoicing properly I am sure) but the plans look great.

[Agbrigg]

1 hour ago, JonM said:

You've had probably the lowest revenue, lowest playing budget, worst facilities etc. pretty much every season of the ten he has been in charge. There's an argument that Mr. Carter has worked wonders when you consider that Hull KR, Bradford, Widnes and Leigh have all been relegated on significantly bigger budgets in that period.

Those early years there was someone at the club making the rugby decisions. Carter was bean counting in the background. Since John Kear left, Carter decided he had the skills and ability to become what was in effect the director of rugby. Been a massive downhill sheight storm ever since. 

Mind you the bloke will get us relegated in style, we'll go down breaking all sorts of records.

[David Shepherd]

7 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

Those early years there was someone at the club making the rugby decisions. Carter was bean counting in the background. Since John Kear left, Carter decided he had the skills and ability to become what was in effect the director of rugby. Been a massive downhill sheight storm ever since. 

Mind you the bloke will get us relegated in style, we'll go down breaking all sorts of records.

Chin up Agbrigg.  It's not all bad, there's a whole new world of away games next year.  Get a Batley pie in your cakehole and all will be right with the world again.

I've a few mates that support Trin and they're all really down in the dumps, must admit I'm really enjoying winding them up right now.  They've been giving me it ever since the '98 play off final.  time for some long overdue payback. 

[Agbrigg]

16 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

Chin up Agbrigg.  It's not all bad, there's a whole new world of away games next year.  Get a Batley pie in your cakehole and all will be right with the world again.

I've a few mates that support Trin and they're all really down in the dumps, must admit I'm really enjoying winding them up right now.  They've been giving me it ever since the '98 play off final.  time for some long overdue payback. 

Thanks for the concern Matey, but I will be giving Batley Pie a miss. The season I am really looking forward to is the one the season after next. A trip to Cornwall will be nice and Wales can be nice too.

[graveyard johnny]

Applegarth given the green light and backed as the right man to steer wakey away from relegation - it looks easier to steer a jet engine powered shopping trolley round silverstone at the min

[graveyard johnny]

a warning to other SL clubs - NOW start learning the lesson of signing washed up NRL players like Kevin Proctor - utter waste of any clubs cash and resources 

[Stanley30]

25 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

a warning to other SL clubs - NOW start learning the lesson of signing washed up NRL players like Kevin Proctor - utter waste of any clubs cash and resources 

Lol, that's a hell of a thing to put on Kevin Procter shoulders. 

 

Been coming for years and has just caught up with them. 

Should have been forced to do the stadium like other clubs, but somehow dragged it out for another 2 decades. Finally caught up with them. 

Castleford next please

[graveyard johnny]

21 minutes ago, Stanley30 said:

Lol, that's a hell of a thing to put on Kevin Procter shoulders. 

 

Been coming for years and has just caught up with them. 

Should have been forced to do the stadium like other clubs, but somehow dragged it out for another 2 decades. Finally caught up with them. 

Castleford next please

its not on proctors  shoulders its on the shoulders of club owners who make these ludicrous signings cos they watched some youtube highlights from 7 years ago

[The Blues Ox]

1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said:

a warning to other SL clubs - NOW start learning the lesson of signing washed up NRL players like Kevin Proctor - utter waste of any clubs cash and resources 

Won't matter after next season.

[Toby Chopra]

4 hours ago, Agbrigg said:

Harry, many have lost their patience already.  I went to the flats end in those stupid seats for the first half. Looking across I could see that the North Stand behind the sticks was the most sparse I have seen it this season. That stand is where the vast majority of our supporters go. 

I will also not be buying a season ticket next year and I could never believe it would come to this. I will still follow the club , but pick the odd game. I have lost total faith how the fiasco of the club is being run. Once Carter has left and hopefully people of competence are running the rugby side then things will change and I will be back for every game

This is sad to read, although I hear your frustration.

With a long time in Superleague behind them and a vastly improved facility, Wakey should feel confident about regaining their place in SL under the new system. There will be other SL clubs that don't keep up.

But they need to hold on to their fans for that year in the Championship, like Hull KR largely did a few years back, or else they're going to start dropping points in the assessment. 

Even if relegation looks certain, the club's owners need to give the fans some good days out and some hope, so they stick with it, not just tank the season to save money.

[Fevrover]

4 hours ago, Taffy Tiger said:

Hi Fevrover , as far as I know it  goes to a council planning committee in June. If approved work can then start . Funding is in place for a new (all seater) main stand and a general upgrade of rest of ground . Capacity will be slightly reduced to a little over 10k as a result of works carried out. 

I'am glad they aren't moving from WR most of their history is there and a proper rugby-league ground. A new main stand will make a lot of difference for a start.

[OMEGA]

7 hours ago, Bobby123 said:

But these are the players, along with others, who have not been pulling their weight IMO.

Eh?

Which team have you been watching, Hewitt was probably MotM for Trinity against Leigh while Mason and Senior have only played one game each!

[Mumby Magic]

Serious question, how have they got to this point. Is their player budget cut fuel to the stand build. Looked through their squad earlier and with the exception of Langi and Proctor their overseas players seem cheap options.

[Faithful1865]

7 hours ago, Agbrigg said:

As a long time poster on here and Trin supporter it's been going on for as long as I remember. In the past it has sometimes been unjustified spite. This season I really don't think I can be critical of anyone having a pop at the club.

However don't have a go directly at our long suffering supporters. Believe me it really hurts seeing the level of incompetence being shown by the people running the club. 

I'm not targeting the Wakey fans who have stood by the team in awful  circumstances. My comments were regarding a pair of Giants supporters who are just about peeing themselves with the excitement of seeing their neighbours struggling. Talk about this being a friendly sport.

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

40 minutes ago, Mumby Magic said:

Serious question, how have they got to this point. Is their player budget cut fuel to the stand build. Looked through their squad earlier and with the exception of Langi and Proctor their overseas players seem cheap options.

Stand build totally separate and ring fenced funding.

Reduction in Sky money left a big hole but portion of remaining money wasted during Chester's final days on the likes of Lineham and Gaskill.

 

Edited April 17 by Wollo Wollo Wayoo

[Morris Wanchuk]

47 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

Stand build totally separate and ring fenced funding.

Reduction in Sky money left a big hole but portion of remaining money wasted during Chester's final days on the likes of Lineham and Gaskill.

 

Could be wrong but I thought the club had paid for the floodlights, new roof on the old coach house & possibly the pitch themselves?

[meast]

1 hour ago, Faithful1865 said:

I'm not targeting the Wakey fans who have stood by the team in awful  circumstances. My comments were regarding a pair of Giants supporters who are just about peeing themselves with the excitement of seeing their neighbours struggling. Talk about this being a friendly sport.

But it's fine for Wakefield fans to do the same?

A lot of them still throw stuff at Huddersfield fans over something that happened over 20 years ago and didn't concern them.

Wakefield, Bradford and Leeds fans all loved putting the boot and bile into Huddersfield when they were at their lowest ebb, why shouldn't they get some back?

I do feel for the long standing Wakefield fans but a lot of Wakefield fans have spent years pulling Huddersfield to pieces, just like Bradford and Leeds fans, they didn't get much sympathy from Giants fans either.

Good luck to the decent, long standing and long suffering Wakefield fans but in all honesty I believe they need to go down and reset.

[daz39]

1 hour ago, Faithful1865 said:

I'm not targeting the Wakey fans who have stood by the team in awful  circumstances. My comments were regarding a pair of Giants supporters who are just about peeing themselves with the excitement of seeing their neighbours struggling. Talk about this being a friendly sport.

Look back at posts from Wakey fans towards Huddersfield in the past and you will see why those and many other Giants fans are absolutely loving it.

Ever heard the phrase 'what goes around comes around' ? well it's come around!

And yes i am peeing myself, i think it's fantastic.

[PREPOSTEROUS]

2 hours ago, Faithful1865 said:

I'm not targeting the Wakey fans who have stood by the team in awful  circumstances. My comments were regarding a pair of Giants supporters who are just about peeing themselves with the excitement of seeing their neighbours struggling. Talk about this being a friendly sport.

Fundamentally I think it's because, despite having a great squad of players, a very astute coach, a multimillionaire backing them to the hilt and a Premier League stadium, they are kind of a dull club all round. 

Would I swop places? Of course I would. 

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

1 hour ago, Morris Wanchuk said:

Could be wrong but I thought the club had paid for the floodlights, new roof on the old coach house & possibly the pitch themselves?

 

2 hours ago, Mumby Magic said:

Serious question, how have they got to this point. Is their player budget cut fuel to the stand build. Looked through their squad earlier and with the exception of Langi and Proctor their overseas players seem cheap options.

 

2 hours ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

Stand build totally separate and ring fenced funding.

Reduction in Sky money left a big hole but portion of remaining money wasted during Chester's final days on the likes of Lineham and Gaskill.

 

 

1 hour ago, Morris Wanchuk said:

Could be wrong but I thought the club had paid for the floodlights, new roof on the old coach house & possibly the pitch themselves?

 The guy just asked about the stand though.