daz39 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Having watched the Myler incident back and listening to Wilkin almost reaching orgasm level with his appreciation of it what's everyone's take on it, is it like Wilkin said a brilliant clever bit of play or as Clarke said afterwards an absolute disgrace?. Personally i think Wilkin didn't help the situation (in general not just last night) by bigging Myler up for 'cheating' nor will he have helped endear people to Sky's already highly criticised coverage. I hate to see cheating in any sport by any team or player but to hear a prominent member of our sports presentation team 100% condoning it as a brilliant thing to do is quite disappointing, if we want to eradicate bad stuff from our game the last thing we need is it being promoted live on air. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, daz39 said: Having watched the Myler incident back and listening to Wilkin almost reaching orgasm level with his appreciation of it what's everyone's take on it, is it like Wilkin said a brilliant clever bit of play or as Clarke said afterwards an absolute disgrace?. Personally i think Wilkin didn't help the situation (in general not just last night) by bigging Myler up for 'cheating' nor will he have helped endear people to Sky's already highly criticised coverage. I hate to see cheating in any sport by any team or player but to hear a prominent member of our sports presentation team 100% condoning it as a brilliant thing to do is quite disappointing, if we want to eradicate bad stuff from our game the last thing we need is it being promoted live on air. Seems like he has his opinion and you have yours and he's paid for his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) In a way, they are both right. On a meta level, it would be preferable in an ideal world if that type of gamesmanship didn't happen in rugby league. Clarke is right in that respect. However, we don't live in an ideal world. This is where Wilkin comes in. He accepts that gamesmanship goes on, and he recognised that - as an act of s**thousery - it was kind of genius, and it led directly to Leeds' victory. Edited August 25, 2022 by Man of Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Didn’t see last nights game but you get this in NRL with commentators - especially Mick Ennis I’ve noticed - saying things like ‘ he’s milked that wonderfully ‘ or how ‘he’s been really clever winning that penalty ‘ . I tend to be more on the side of saying no it’s cheating mate , but if the ref buys it I get what he’s saying 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 It was bad for the game, especially by someone like Myler who isn't someone to be admired off field. I am sure everyone will agree judged by the thread about treating women At least Wilkin called it for what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 It makes for better TV if somebody plays devils advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) For us Bulls fans, there has been nothing more humiliating than Leeds bailing us out when we had no players. I'd like to thank Richie Myler for giving us our self repect back. We can now re-commence mutual dislike in the relationship between the Mighty Bulls and Dirty Dirty Leeds. Avast !! Scrotes on the Eastern Flank! Edited August 25, 2022 by Wolford6 1 1 Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) The consensus seems to be its now ok to lift and drop a player on his head and the Ref ignore it if: A its a Leeds player B if it stops Leeds winning the game C its Richie Myler as everyones in love with Helen Skelton and he’s a B’stard for leaving her. Edited August 25, 2022 by Live after death 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barca Mum Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Much prefer Kyle Amor as a pundit doesn't speak for the sake of it Jon Wilkin seems to be catching up with Baz and Tez in the annoying stakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I suspect Wilkin is the one paid to be controversial these days? Anyone condoning cheating in sport can F-right off for me though, it's why I have zero interest in the premier league anymore, cheating and gamesmanship has become part of the game, "he felt contact so he's entitled to cheat" etc 4 1 Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, meast said: I suspect Wilkin is the one paid to be controversial these days? Anyone condoning cheating in sport can F-right off for me though, it's why I have zero interest in the premier league anymore, cheating and gamesmanship has become part of the game, "he felt contact so he's entitled to cheat" etc No they ‘ win ‘ free kicks with clever play , and they ‘ anticipated contact ‘ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) Do I sometimes get frustrated with Wilkin? For sure. Are there some phrases that he uses that make me want to throw the cat at the TV? For sure. Are there any that I can think of at the moment? Not really. Edited August 25, 2022 by Dunbar 3 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Do I sometimes get frustrated with Wilkin? For sure. Are there some phrases that he uses that make we want to throw the cat at the TV? For sure. Are there any that I can think of at the moment? Not really. ' minerals ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallithrax Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I am against cheating in any sport, but Myler didn't do anything wrong in this. Yes, he moved himself into that position, but he didn't then slam his head towards the ground and it didn't need to be done by the defender. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh1 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, metallithrax said: I am against cheating in any sport, but Myler didn't do anything wrong in this. Yes, he moved himself into that position, but he didn't then slam his head towards the ground and it didn't need to be done by the defender. Yes he did. He lifted his own legs into the air. Hill didn't go anywhere near his legs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandOffHalf Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Myler jumped, but Hill then had hold of him upside down and released him mid-air to fall on his shoulders/head. Dumb, unnecessary play from both of them, if you ask me. I think it has to be a penalty against the tackler. Myler did go down to the ground dangerously, with Hill contributing. The referee should have warned them both. Not an incident that reflects well on either party. I liked Clarke's words post-game in the studio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Dunbar said: Do I sometimes get frustrated with Wilkin? For sure. Are there some phrases that he uses that make me want to throw the cat at the TV? For sure. Are there any that I can think of at the moment? Not really. You forgot to start every sentence with ....look..... 1 Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 13 hours ago, metallithrax said: I am against cheating in any sport, but Myler didn't do anything wrong in this. Yes, he moved himself into that position, but he didn't then slam his head towards the ground and it didn't need to be done by the defender. The whole idea of that sort of tackle technique is so the defender can't move. Myler knew this and he was never getting a quick play the ball, I encourage anyone to try and lift a player from that position like Chris Hill is supposed to have done, it is really hard to get the leverage without trying really hard and you can see if you watch Chris Hill he is really not trying to lift him. Myler put himself in a dangerous position trying to win a penalty and if he injured himself doing it then he would have been to blame. Ian Watson is quite a calm bloke and he knew exactly what had gone on in that tackle. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 19 hours ago, Jughead said: It makes for better TV if somebody plays devils advocate. No it doesn't. It was a disgusting comment from a grub ex-player who seems intent on being a grub pundid. Phil Clark was spot on, if what Myler did is to be admired the game is dead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said: No it doesn't. It was a disgusting comment from a grub ex-player who seems intent on being a grub pundid. Phil Clark was spot on, if what Myler did is to be admired the game is dead. It makes for better TV if someone is offering a controversial, different opinion or playing devils advocate. Or at least that’s the theory. It’s quite common in punditry and has been prevalent in Rugby League for some time. It seemed to be Phil Clarke’s job for many years. He’d ask “could that be a penalty try Stuart?” to Stuart Cummings when it would clearly not be in the history of man, he’d make outlandish statements about Dr Marwan leading Salford out at Old Trafford and he made some odd comments. As for “disgusting comments” wasn’t it Phil who said that Rob Burrow deserved to be injured? He’s still in a job. Edited August 26, 2022 by Jughead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jughead said: As for “disgusting comments” wasn’t it Phil who said that Rob Burrow deserved to be injured? He’s still in a job. It was Danny McGuire but yes. He's happy to be involved in the sort of sport where a commentator thinks players deserve injury but thinks Richie Myler playing for a penalty is outrageous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 25/08/2022 at 15:49, Niels said: It was bad for the game, especially by someone like Myler who isn't someone to be admired off field. I am sure everyone will agree judged by the thread about treating women At least Wilkin called it for what it was. You have absolutely no idea what went on with myler and his wife, you only have her version of it. If you don't like him as a player fine but don't comment on his private life you nothing about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Loiner said: On 25/08/2022 at 15:49, Niels said: It was bad for the game, especially by someone like Myler who isn't someone to be admired off field. I am sure everyone will agree judged by the thread about treating women At least Wilkin called it for what it was. You have absolutely no idea what went on with myler and his wife, you only have her version of it. If you don't like him as a player fine but don't comment on his private life you nothing about. The insinuation that a marriage breaking down is in any way similar to mistreating women is pretty vile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 hours ago, M j M said: It was Danny McGuire but yes. He's happy to be involved in the sort of sport where a commentator thinks players deserve injury but thinks Richie Myler playing for a penalty is outrageous. Except that isn't what he said. 1 Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, M j M said: The insinuation that a marriage breaking down is in any way similar to mistreating women is pretty vile. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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