Sat 19 Nov: Men's World Cup Final: Australia v Samoa KO 4pm

[Futtocks]

2 minutes ago, MZH said:

Milford will be credited with the error, but what a god awful pass from Luai.

Still a bad knock-on, but excellent recovery to tackle Wighton almost in the same movement and at least postpone the next Kangaroo try.

[Abicus]

Can Samoa get to halftime and not concede?

[StandOffHalf]

I think neutral Rochelle Tamarua should have reffed this game.

Most inclusive, diverse World Cup ever.

[Futtocks]

2 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I'd like to see the ref controlling the orb a little more. 

What about the sceptre?

[Jughead]

2 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

Pretty sure it's Warren Turley isn't it?

There’s two. Jack Smith missed the Tedesco boot in touch. 

[eal]

Hard to believe England lost to this lot.

[andyscoot]

I can hear 2 ref voices. One is the main ref and then another person? Are the touchies mic'ed up?

[Dave T]

1 minute ago, Gomersall said:

No, why would there be?

Because there actually is. 

[Chrispmartha]

Australia are just relentless 

[StandOffHalf]

8 minutes ago, Jughead said:

Jack Smith is the touch judge. I have no idea why others brought up the video ref. 

Sorry, I mis-wrote in the heat of the game.

[Futtocks]

The mentality of Australian sports teams is based in a deep dissatisfaction that their opponents can't finish a game with a score any lower than zero.

Edited November 19, 2022 by Futtocks

[17 stone giant]

1 minute ago, Gomersall said:

No, why would there be?

I wasn't saying there should be. Just was asking for clarification as I often watch union and so was used to seeing that sort of thing penalised.

[OMEGA]

My respect for Suali’i has grown throughout the tournament, he’s going to be a superstar as he matures and learns from experiences like this

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

6 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

NO , THE most stupid rule in Sport 

Actually there is a law regarding a 'deliberate' knock on 

From the International Laws of the game

Edited November 19, 2022 by Les Tonks Sidestep

[Dave T]

Just now, 17 stone giant said:

I wasn't saying there should be. Just was asking for clarification as I often watch union and so was used to seeing that sort of thing penalised.

It would have been a sin bin in Union. Its a professional foul. 

[Abicus]

Phew

[DoubleD]

Lafai has shown up well

[Guest]

1 minute ago, OMEGA said:

My respect for Suali’i has grown throughout the tournament, he’s going to be a superstar as he matures and learns from experiences like this

He is a beast. Both England games he was like trying to tackle a crazy horse.

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

It would have been a sin bin in Union. Its a professional foul. 

But stupid 

[Sports Prophet]

5 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said:

Regarding Addo-Carr, is there no deliberate knock-on in RL?

 

2 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Yes, there is.  But it's one of those laws we don't bother with.

 

2 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Yes, it's in the laws. 

We just ignore it. 

Just because. 

 

2 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

No, why would there be?

There is a deliberate knock on rule and the law was applied in a Sharks game in 2021 or 22 for a ”deliberate knock” when the touch judge failed to pick up an obvious forward tap on pass.

Video referee then got involved and overturned the decision of try because of a ”deliberate knock on”.

My only thought is the rule might say something like ”you can't deliberately knock the ball forwards to gain an advantage”, and in turn interpreting that only the team in possession can be defined to ”take an advantage”. That's just me guessing though.

[Futtocks]

Just now, DoubleD said:

Lafai has shown up well

An injection of SL quality into the side.

[Exiled Wiganer]

5 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

If a game's over at 10:0 then Rugby League's pretty much doomed.

I'm not saying Samoa (in their current form) are going to get back in this, and we all know the Kangaroos will score more.

But two tries and one conversion isn't a lot.

I have watched thousands of games in my time, and can’t see any way that this Australian team is going to have to get out of second gear to win this. And a rout looks likely. 

To pick up a theme from an earlier post, in years gone by a massive Aussie win would be neither a good thing nor a bad thing for us, because we knew we would have a chance to play them every couple of years. With the current balance of power in the game - NRL first second and third - from a NH perspective certainly, and probably from a SH international perspective, this will be the perfect excuse for them to play as few games as possible and certainly not to tour.

The NRL have no interest in the Kangaroo brand. None of the top NRL people even bothered to come over here. You only have to try to buy a Kangaroo top as opposed to a SoO or NRL top anywhere in Oz to see that. 

I am acutely conscious that the NH has no answer to the NRL “so what, sort yourselves out”. I just think it’s a crying shame that no kids up here will go through what I went through as a kid and be inspired by regular games against the Kangaroos. 

[Mark S]

Let’s face it, Samoa beat an England team where 95% of the players have been flogged over the SL season, and then expected to play at the top level for another few weeks.

[StandOffHalf]

9 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said:

Regarding Addo-Carr, is there no deliberate knock-on in RL?

There is, but we ignore that law.

Yellow card in RU, and a penalty try if a try would have been scored.

[Dunbar]

Samoa have done well to keep that to 14.