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40 minutes ago, Barley Mow said:

This suggests that their decision applies to both men's and women's world cups. But for the wheelchair event (for Australia at least) a decision hasn't been made yet.

There was a statement and they've pulled out too.

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3 hours ago, FearTheVee said:

The SL season is being impacted by a small number of positive cases and a very large number of people being "pinged" into isolation.  Sometimes rather "conveniently" on behalf of certain clubs. . . . 

The bubbles around the SL teams will bear no resemblence whatsoever to those around the World Cup.  Interesting you don't reference a pan-European soccer tournament, a chunk of which was hosted in Engalnd in front of crowds, and how many players were infected and how many matches were called off?

Thank you Mr Vee, I am happy to support your assertion.

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I am so sad about all of this.

All of us on this forum are here for one reason ONLY we are RL fans.

I personally discovered this game by accident in 1974 whilst working in Hull then after a lapse of a few years took an interest again in 1980 when Fulham entered Division 2 of the old championship.

OMG there are a few scars out there when I was younger 😞 however I am still here and totally in love with this beautiful game  ( And I am a pure born and bred Southerner living in Kent when I am in the UK) 

In my later years and happily having my wife run the 2 business successfully it allows me time to spend on things that I love Radio/Train set/Cricket/Rugby League 🙂 The next few years of my life until I drop dead LOL all I want to see is RL progress in various countries around the world and 100% get back on its feet again in France we are very lucky that we have the ability to assist.

Trent Robinson would be a godsend for FRL I cannot explain so much being in marketing how much he would mean to getting FRL back on its feet again.

A successful France will have huge positive implications for RL in the UK.

All I can say is we really do need this WC to happen personally I think the players want it to happen as we all do.

Now is the time for the worldwide RL community to come together our hopes are with the fantastic players to stand up to this and make it happen.

 

Paul

 

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1 hour ago, Mathius Hellwege said:

great nuggets i na very good article (with at title that doesn't do it justice):

 

big rebellion by the players

RL Players association is at least supporting it to a certain degree

Troy Grant still fighting against his old clique

Replacement nations

out of the box replacement solutions

the statements of Meninga and Maguire

political discussions on a government level

...

Its worth noting that players who become "names" can enjoy various rewards and endorsements etc as a result of the WC.  So it strikes me it is the duty of the players association to question those who don't  support the WC.

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4 minutes ago, Scubby said:

NZ and Australia trying to strong arm the pacific islands with sweeteners of end of season tests and future tests in places like Tonga is pretty much as low as it gets.

yes, Troy Grant and IRL have to compete with promises of Grants after RLWC, a new international calendar, England and/or Lions tours to them etc.

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1 minute ago, newbe said:

If true, it could make for an exciting WC, freaky results, France do well, Italy surprise results etc. Plus if they play WC does that mean they cant play for Aus n Nz

Hopefully, that'd be a real middle finger to them. You didn't want to play in the World Cup and as a result your teams are going to be permanently weakened!

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3 minutes ago, newbe said:

If true, it could make for an exciting WC, freaky results, France do well, Italy surprise results etc. Plus if they play WC does that mean they cant play for Aus n Nz

If that happens, and it does pretty well, then I look forward to France's trailers for RWC2025 coming out and the Australians/Kiwis ringing them up and saying "hey, what about us?"

It'll have to be a nice HD internet call to capture the epic Gallic shrug they receive in reply.

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45 minutes ago, Scubby said:

NZ and Australia trying to strong arm the pacific islands with sweeteners of end of season tests and future tests in places like Tonga is pretty much as low as it gets.

The logical (obvious?) thing the IRL could do is offer a fit-for-purpose international calendar that guarantees the games that NZ are using to bribe PI nations with, but on a regular schedule. 
 

… if only, eh?

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37 minutes ago, Mathius Hellwege said:

Interesting to read the last paragraph in particular. Sounds to me like the WC organisers have already jumped through every hoop that's been asked of them and the ARL and NZRL have still stuck two fingers in their direction under the patently false covid concern banner. The bull which has been flowing from them in the last 48 hours seems even more contemptuous.

I sincerely hope we're able to continue with the WC and don't bow down to the bullies, put on a fantastic festival of RL without them and maybe even show a few of the players who choose to switch to a tier two nation what the international scene is capable of if they commit to a world which doesn't revolve around Australia and their NZ lap dog.

Or failing that we sue their asses into the ground.

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2 minutes ago, Moove said:

Interesting to read the last paragraph in particular. Sounds to me like the WC organisers have already jumped through every hoop that's been asked of them and the ARL and NZRL have still stuck two fingers in their direction under the patently false covid concern banner. The bull which has been flowing from them in the last 48 hours seems even more contemptuous.

also my interpretation of this and many other quality articles about the affair

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26 minutes ago, newbe said:

If true, it could make for an exciting WC, freaky results, France do well, Italy surprise results etc. Plus if they play WC does that mean they cant play for Aus n Nz

No they can go back to their original tier 1 nation after 12 months of not playing for another nation. 

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37 minutes ago, welshmagpie said:

The logical (obvious?) thing the IRL could do is offer a fit-for-purpose international calendar that guarantees the games that NZ are using to bribe PI nations with, but on a regular schedule. 
 

… if only, eh?

The have for 2021 I think. It's called a World Cup.

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2 minutes ago, shrewsbury roughyed said:

Maybe they’ll switch allegiance to England. Might give us a chance of winning.

Doesn't it make the whole competition more exciting?

More unpredictable, with some of these great players spread across the competing Nations?

The Australian and New Zealand withdrawal, not only (ostensibly) improves England's chances of winning but it could produce another (more than one) Tonga. A dark horse, coming out of the shadows, enhanced and emboldened by a sprinkling of great heritage players.

It also opens up the prospect of the USA, Brazil or Serbia taking part making the whole tournament more colourful, more interesting, more intriguing.  

I just hope this goes ahead, despite the antipodeans arrogance, I can't wait! 

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I get the motivation but driving out members of national sides just so some previously committed  Kangaroos and Kiwis can cosplay as other nationalities really would make the whole thing ... what’s the word ... problematic?

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Most of you posting on this post have been interested in the result for weeks & read the first statement the Aussies put out plus the statements from the WC people about the offers to help the Aussies come over & what they offered seemed ok for NZ a week ago 90% of us where aware the Aussies where playing hardball for other reasons, one of the offers was planes just for them & my understand they would put them up in so called country clubs with all the faculty's or has somebody mentioned in another post places like Bath University where they have sports facility's. All this can be done easily places like St Mary's Cricket ground was used in the summer where both cricket teams plus the media where isolated so come on Aussies & Kiwis what's the real reason we have put on safe events under Covid in the UK for months. 

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2 hours ago, DavidM said:

If Australia is keen then so are we … how much does that sentence say ? Are the kiwis incapable of any independent thought . Secondly he talks about respect for the pacific island nations … what like pulling out of the World Cup then basically trying to get them to . 

Wheres the players welfare here?

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8 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

The real reason is power and money. They want to control/run the game. And they don’t want to share any money that involves Australia (or New Zealand). The WC funds go to the IRL after all; not the NRL/NZRL. 

Correct. 

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13 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I get the motivation but driving out members of national sides just so some previously committed  Kangaroos and Kiwis can cosplay as other nationalities really would make the whole thing ... what’s the word ... problematic?

With the extended squads expected, maybe there’s room for a few guests without casting the others aside?

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5 minutes ago, Spidey said:

With the extended squads expected, maybe there’s room for a few guests without casting the others aside?

I read something from PNG the other day that they only plan to fly over 23 players… has extended squads been confirmed at all?

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24 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I get the motivation but driving out members of national sides just so some previously committed  Kangaroos and Kiwis can cosplay as other nationalities really would make the whole thing ... what’s the word ... problematic?

Yeah that's not right in opinion, players who have been preparing in the squad now lose their place? I don't think that's very fair.

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