sweaty craiq Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Rugby League Extra - 22/08/2021 - BBC Sounds Dereks on about 5 mins Doc at 35 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Why is Koukash still treated as the second coming? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I guess because he still would love to own a RL club and recently tried to buy one :))) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 What could possibly go wrong. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, M j M said: What could possibly go wrong. To be honest he left Salford in a better position than when he took them on and just after he left (debt free) they made the GF. RL fans are always looking for that multi millionaire who loves RL and here we have one - and everybody slates him. I'm not a Bradford fan but from the outside looking in - wouldn't he be great for them to get them back into SL?? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh1 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think that anyone with his amount of money should be welcomed into the game. He might have a mate with a similar amount of money. Gutted it didn’t work at Salford, but I would like to see him back in the game. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said: To be honest he left Salford in a better position than when he took them on and just after he left (debt free) they made the GF. RL fans are always looking for that multi millionaire who loves RL and here we have one - and everybody slates him. I'm not a Bradford fan but from the outside looking in - wouldn't he be great for them to get them back into SL?? They should have let Mrs Koukash buy the Bulls when she wanted too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said: Why is Koukash still treated as the second coming? No idea, he promised Salford were going to be one of the big 4 Super League clubs winning trophies and then that he’d start a Super League club in Liverpool. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: No idea, he promised Salford were going to be one of the big 4 Super League clubs winning trophies and then that he’d start a Super League club in Liverpool. I think the salary cap pe'ed him off. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, sweaty craiq said: Rugby League Extra - 22/08/2021 - BBC Sounds Dereks on about 5 mins Doc at 35 mins Worth listening to. Beaumont: 5 mins 20 secs through till 19 mins 50 secs Wigan discussions: 23 mins through to 33 mins 38 secs Koukash: 35 mins 35 secs through to 41 mins “The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Not listened but is this Beaumant not wanting to fund a FT team in a PT league so asking a friend to do it to enable a bounceback to SL next year? Great news for the championship if Leigh remain FT and dont fall apart like Widnes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daddy Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 What happened to the Liverpool club he was going to start? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnM said: Worth listening to. Beaumont: 5 mins 20 secs through till 19 mins 50 secs Wigan discussions: 23 mins through to 33 mins 38 secs Koukash: 35 mins 35 secs through to 41 mins I thought there were some interesting points put forward from a self made bloke who knows how to sell and make money. Koukash's wealth is reported to be up to £2b - who in their right mind wouldn't want a bloke with that wealth and connections in our sport, a sport devoid of such people. Ans Your average RL fan who thinks £30 is too much for a ticket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsi42 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 The last thing this sport needs is someone with money and ruddy ideas...it’s a local sport for local people. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadera78 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, sweaty craiq said: I thought there were some interesting points put forward from a self made bloke who knows how to sell and make money. Koukash's wealth is reported to be up to £2b - who in their right mind wouldn't want a bloke with that wealth and connections in our sport, a sport devoid of such people. Ans Your average RL fan who thinks £30 is too much for a ticket If Koukash is worth £2bn why has he never made any of the rich lists? Why did he not buy Salford's stadium and the land around it as promised? Why did he not build Swinton a stadium as promised? Why did he not start a club in Liverpool? Or west Cumbria? Or the NRL? Or buy the Titans? He's got more money than me, no doubt about that, but he's a BS artist. No wonder he gets on so well with Beaumont. Their proposed partnership at Leigh, assuming it's not more hot air from Koukash, will last how long? 12 1 1 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Add, "Why did he scrap Salford's academy?" to that list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Why do all threads end up with people talking about Leigh..? Edited August 24, 2021 by The Hallucinating Goose 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, nadera78 said: If Koukash is worth £2bn why has he never made any of the rich lists? Why did he not buy Salford's stadium and the land around it as promised? Why did he not build Swinton a stadium as promised? Why did he not start a club in Liverpool? Or west Cumbria? Or the NRL? Or buy the Titans? He's got more money than me, no doubt about that, but he's a BS artist. No wonder he gets on so well with Beaumont. Their proposed partnership at Leigh, assuming it's not more hot air from Koukash, will last how long? I mean, it's literally a few months ago when we (and I do include myself in that, at the start at least) fell for talk of 'investors' in the NARL. Koukash strikes me as a lot like that. The front is there but the cashflow behind it seems not match the words - and I suspect for similar reasons. He needs to do a Chasing Roos podcast and start flogging some shirts for clubs that will never play a single senior competitive game. That normally convinces people. 5 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 7 hours ago, The Daddy said: What happened to the Liverpool club he was going to start? He probably realised that not many if any people are interested in RL in Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookey Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 If Mr Koukash has money available to invest - give away - I'd love him to invest in a club that would hopefully benefit rl in the longer term. My no 1 suggestion would be Newcastle but they seem to have a good and financially stable owner. Number 2 would be York,who I think could be a solid and stable SL club,with a sensible amount of backing. Otherwise,there area number of clubs with older owners,who are carrying significant debt. Someone willing to be involved in a club and write down a substantial amount of debt would certainly help the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, cookey said: If Mr Koukash has money available to invest - give away - I'd love him to invest in a club that would hopefully benefit rl in the longer term. My no 1 suggestion would be Newcastle but they seem to have a good and financially stable owner. Number 2 would be York,who I think could be a solid and stable SL club,with a sensible amount of backing. Otherwise,there area number of clubs with older owners,who are carrying significant debt. Someone willing to be involved in a club and write down a substantial amount of debt would certainly help the game. Yes , but he likes his Lobby , and the best Lobby is in Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadera78 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, gingerjon said: I mean, it's literally a few months ago when we (and I do include myself in that, at the start at least) fell for talk of 'investors' in the NARL. Koukash strikes me as a lot like that. The front is there but the cashflow behind it seems not match the words - and I suspect for similar reasons. He needs to do a Chasing Roos podcast and start flogging some shirts for clubs that will never play a single senior competitive game. That normally convinces people. Every true RL fan always has space for one more polyester shirt in the bottom drawer. 2 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, nadera78 said: If Koukash is worth £2bn why has he never made any of the rich lists? Why did he not buy Salford's stadium and the land around it as promised? Why did he not build Swinton a stadium as promised? Why did he not start a club in Liverpool? Or west Cumbria? Or the NRL? Or buy the Titans? He's got more money than me, no doubt about that, but he's a BS artist. No wonder he gets on so well with Beaumont. Their proposed partnership at Leigh, assuming it's not more hot air from Koukash, will last how long? He was on a documentary a while back and said to be worth around £60m - that obviously includes the value of his property and horses, not money available to spend/invest. If this partnership comes off I'm not sure which one of them I'd feel most sorry for.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 hours ago, sweaty craiq said: Koukash's wealth is reported to be up to £2b Reported where? Another thing that seems to often be "reported" is that Koukash left Salford debt free. Is that accurate or did he just write off the debts owed to himself by the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, gingerjon said: I mean, it's literally a few months ago when we (and I do include myself in that, at the start at least) fell for talk of 'investors' in the NARL. Koukash strikes me as a lot like that. The front is there but the cashflow behind it seems not match the words - and I suspect for similar reasons. He needs to do a Chasing Roos podcast and start flogging some shirts for clubs that will never play a single senior competitive game. That normally convinces people Euro xiii another good example, Spain rugby league another ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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