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8 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

Hopefully there’s not too much hassle with the rearranging of the tournament in terms of dates, venues and the like. 

It's possible the clash FIFA world cup might actually help in that regard. The Premier League winter break will probably start around 10th November-ish, which should mean the Emirates, Anfield and Old Trafford are all available for the latter stages of the tournament. 

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24 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I'd be okay with taking the hit on rubbish crowds just to give England any kind of momentum.

They have to organise *something*.

(And not put it on half in apology).

I agree, if we are happy to stage world cup games next year with these teams, we should do something this year. 

It's clear the England team need a bit of work too! 

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14 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

.. "i cant wait for the NRL to be overan by Soccer" etc etc. Make your mind up.

 

 

 

I can't, they might wake up and realise there's a world outside of Australasia and in some bits they play RL and it might be worth playing against them on regular occasions. They certainly don't see that now.

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9 minutes ago, Derwent said:

There was nothing credible about it on the pitch. If I recall correctly England played 3 games, Wales & France, then France again in the final, and won those games by a combined score of 170-20 including putting 80 odd past Wales.

So speaks an RL fan who refuses to enjoy RL, but it was credible in the sense of ebobg properly organised, full teams, national TV coverage etc. 

Game at Hull KR mind. 

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8 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

You mustn’t get to watch much rugby then if you’re more bothered about the towns and cities games are played in than the product on the pitch. I’ll look forward to watching Australia, PNG, Tonga and Fiji while you look at libraries and bus stations. 

Im talking about potential games at the end of this year, but aye, ill watch big games in good venues. Time is precious and i cant justify it and certainly cant sell a weekend away to Bolton to a neutral. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Super League based opponents to play England?

Wales, Ireland, France, Jamaica

Scotland at a push.

Of those I reckon its France and Ireland tied at the top for the toughest fixtures.

Jamaica, +1 other ... call it a World Series of Rugby League.

Make it a celebration where the results don't count for too much but it's all about development and visibility.

Women and wheelchair matches too.

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9 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

I can't, they might wake up and realise there's a world outside of Australasia and in some bits they play RL and it might be worth playing against them on regular occasions. They certainly don't see that now.

So you do or do not want RL to fail? Be honest...

I am at the stage where i couldnt care

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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Jamaica, +1 other ... call it a World Series of Rugby League.

Make it a celebration where the results don't count for too much but it's all about development and visibility.

Women and wheelchair matches too.

Should probably be some good will events at the arenas and stadiums that we can use too.

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Just now, MattSantos said:

Can someone tell me, if the WC went ahead as planned and England won it, when is their next game and who against?

Is there a calendar in play to take us to the next one?

There is no calendar. There's not even a confirmed World Cup in 2025.

Wouldn't matter anyway if the NRL decide not to release players because they're needed for preseason trials.

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Just now, MattSantos said:

There we go again! Tell us, do you want the sport to fail? Because if it does in Aus, as you have clearly said you want, as a commercial enterprise it fails in the north of England, too. 

Its already failing commercially in the north of England - that ship I fear has sailed. We're already talking of going down to just 10 professional teams.

The World Cup really could have been the shot in the arm the sport here (and indeed in the rest of the world) so desperately needed. That has been sabotaged unilaterally by 16 NRL clubs. I can't wait for a time where they can't exist in blissful ignorance that the rest of the world exists.

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Just now, gingerjon said:

There is no calendar. There's not even a confirmed World Cup in 2025.

Wouldn't matter anyway if the NRL decide not to release players because they're needed for preseason trials.

Did the NRL propose an International calendar?

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Just now, MattSantos said:

Did the NRL propose an International calendar?

Anyone can propose an international calendar.

I think the last one the NRL proposed in detail had the Kangaroos touring England in 2019.

That must have been brilliant.

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2 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

Can someone tell me, if the WC went ahead as planned and England won it, when is their next game and who against?

Is there a calendar in play to take us to the next one?

I wonder why there is no calendar?? Hmm why could that be?? Hmmm?? I'm sure there was after 2017.

I wonder why the whole planned calendar was changed in 2019? Who could have decided that?

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The RFL and the game in this country needs to build up its stock of regular credible opposition.

Despite the presence of NRL players the likes of Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and (less reliance on NRL players) PNG should still remain as possible regular opponents.

tests/short tours by any of the above could easily be profitable. If approached and executed correctly.

France is our most obvious opponent to build up competition with. It’s ridiculous it’s taken something like this to force the discussion around more and regular games. 
We won’t build up that competition by playing games midweek as a rushed addition to an already structured calendar.

IMO Games against the home nations will not bear any fruit until the game invests in those nations properly. 
 

Short term - look to structure regular games against PI nations and France.

long term - invest in the development of the home nations while playing regular club and International games in those countries. Development here can be linked to SL development.

After this whole episode I wouldn’t be currently looking to play Australia or NZ outside a tournament. Any respect and trust for both governing bodies has gone.

I do however feel this is all about certain individuals within the game in Australia. People come and go. Hopefully those people go sooner rather than later. 

 

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1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

I wonder why there is no calendar?? Hmm why could that be?? Hmmm?? I'm sure there was after 2017.

I wonder why the whole planned calendar was changed in 2019? Who could have decided that?

Was there no calendar or was it changed? Cant be both

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1 minute ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

There’s nothing wrong with any of the venues, towns and cities picked for the postponed Rugby League World Cup in the U.K.

Each was appropriate for the kind of games that were being put on.

Self-hate is not a healthy thing.

No one is saying they werent. 

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So, anyway, perhaps RFL could organise a mini-comp - maybe a couple of Oceania Cup-style round robins consisting of World Cup nations, eg England, France, Wales, Jamaica, Ireland, Scotland?

If it's too late organise such a thing, perhaps an England vs. France 'triple-header' - men, women and wheelchair? 

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