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On 05/06/2024 at 00:02, del capo said:

About a dozen clubs  have made  informal enquiries I understand.  An RFL panel is now working on the entry requirements  which will then go out for formal expressions of interest - decision due by September.

Would love a Carlisle or Blackpool based team to be in the 12, two areas with massive potential for growth


Posted
15 hours ago, Carlisle1921 said:

Would love a Carlisle or Blackpool based team to be in the 12, two areas with massive potential for growth

History would point to the opposite

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Posted
4 hours ago, The Future is League said:

I'm presuming that any clubs that join League 1 from outside the M62 Corridor would have to pay the expenses of visiting clubs from within the M62 corridor.

Don't give them any ideas 😂

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Posted
21 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

Don't give them any ideas 😂

Don't forget that they thought expansion was putting another club in Super League from a Wigan borough, and they paid a bloke 100,000's to tell them that.

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So far non of the applicants are looking like bringing anything.

Only sensible idea would be to bring a couple of French clubs into the championship with 2 dropping down to League 1.

However downside is it will be the death of Elite 1 in France, the French like us love derbies if Carcassonne are admitted then the derbies v Limoux and Lezignan are out of the window.

Carcassonne would walk the current League 1 like Toronto did.

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6 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

So far non of the applicants are looking like bringing anything.

Only sensible idea would be to bring a couple of French clubs into the championship with 2 dropping down to League 1.

However downside is it will be the death of Elite 1 in France, the French like us love derbies if Carcassonne are admitted then the derbies v Limoux and Lezignan are out of the window.

Carcassonne would walk the current League 1 like Toronto did.

There is an argument to be made to make League 1 and Elite 1 parallel leagues with the winner of each being promoted to replace bottom 2 of Championship.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

There is an argument to be made to make League 1 and Elite 1 parallel leagues with the winner of each being promoted to replace bottom 2 of Championship.

Does that even make sense?

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18 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

So far non of the applicants are looking like bringing anything.

Only sensible idea would be to bring a couple of French clubs into the championship with 2 dropping down to League 1.

However downside is it will be the death of Elite 1 in France, the French like us love derbies if Carcassonne are admitted then the derbies v Limoux and Lezignan are out of the window.

Carcassonne would walk the current League 1 like Toronto did.

So it's not a sensible idea?

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, sam4731 said:

There is an argument to be made to make League 1 and Elite 1 parallel leagues with the winner of each being promoted to replace bottom 2 of Championship.

What happens if over a 5 year period the relegated teams are always British ones? That’s 5 French teams in and all of a sudden a very inflated League One. It would only work if there was flexibility ala National League North & South in football. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, gingerjon said:

So it's not a sensible idea?

Shhh……If it doesnt make sense it will quickly be adopted by RFL.

Lets face it….expansion doesnt make sense when we recently lost two clubs and other current clubs are struggling.

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6 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

expansion doesnt make sense when we recently lost two clubs and other current clubs are struggling.

The reason we lost clubs is because the game hasn't expanded enough

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12 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

So far non of the applicants are looking like bringing anything.

Only sensible idea would be to bring a couple of French clubs into the championship with 2 dropping down to League 1.

However downside is it will be the death of Elite 1 in France, the French like us love derbies if Carcassonne are admitted then the derbies v Limoux and Lezignan are out of the window.

Carcassonne would walk the current League 1 like Toronto did.

Any French tean wanting to enter League 1 would be mad as the RFL would expect to pay any expenses of Visiting British teams from the M62 corridor

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Posted
On 09/06/2024 at 15:58, Bearman said:

History would point to the opposite

While Carlisle RLFC were going, the Carlisle & District ARL comp, at its peak, extended to two divisions.

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7 minutes ago, Hopping Mad said:

While Carlisle RLFC were going, the Carlisle & District ARL comp, at its peak, extended to two divisions.

I had friends playing junior RL to a decent standard. When Carlisle 'merged' with Barrow those were shut down straight away.

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Personally, I think this should be an open, advertised annual thing.

However the RFL should accept who has the best application out of those applied but to have a club enter with a solid application. If that makes sense lol.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Hopping Mad said:

While Carlisle RLFC were going, the Carlisle & District ARL comp, at its peak, extended to two divisions.

It's a travesty that RL was left to disappear in Carlisle (or practically disappear). The whole episode was a complete dereliction of duty by the RFL and its role. It would cost millions to build up RL in Carlisle to what it was but would have cost a fraction of that just to maintain it.

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8 minutes ago, Damien said:

It's a travesty that RL was left to disappear in Carlisle (or practically disappear). The whole episode was a complete dereliction of duty by the RFL and hits role. It would cost millions to build up RL in Carlisle to what it was but would have cost a fraction of that just to maintain it.

If I remember correctly Carlise had a reserves/''A' team playing out of Penrith in the mid-80s. There was an attendance of about 1000 for a reserves cup game against Widnes.

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Posted
14 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

So far non of the applicants are looking like bringing anything.

Only sensible idea would be to bring a couple of French clubs into the championship with 2 dropping down to League 1.

However downside is it will be the death of Elite 1 in France, the French like us love derbies if Carcassonne are admitted then the derbies v Limoux and Lezignan are out of the window.

Carcassonne would walk the current League 1 like Toronto did.

The costs and logistics of more French teams make that unfeasible,  viable expansion in the UK is the way forward but only with a solid business plan for any applications. 

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2 hours ago, Hopping Mad said:

While Carlisle RLFC were going, the Carlisle & District ARL comp, at its peak, extended to two divisions.

When Town were going decent West Cumbria had a thriving amateur scene. 

Three competitive divisions which kept the top clubs in the county and away from the NCL.

Brow and Mont excluded 😉

Hand in hand .

Success at senior club level kindles enthusiasm which trickles down to local club level.

Any new club have a massive undertaking to establish themselves never mind setting up a local scene to underpin them.

 

 

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22 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

So far non of the applicants are looking like bringing anything.

Only sensible idea would be to bring a couple of French clubs into the championship with 2 dropping down to League 1.

However downside is it will be the death of Elite 1 in France, the French like us love derbies if Carcassonne are admitted then the derbies v Limoux and Lezignan are out of the window.

Carcassonne would walk the current League 1 like Toronto did.

The French teams should play in their own league/country- This is GB RL

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9 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

Any French tean wanting to enter League 1 would be mad as the RFL would expect to pay any expenses of Visiting British teams from the M62 corridor

An the rest of us Cornwall , Newcastle an Cumbria " Gods own land"

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Maybe the trick here is to not just think of applications from existing clubs. What about investors wanting to invest in the game and possibly a new franchise. Cornwall weren't in existence before coming into League One. Some form of Scottish, Irish or South Wales franchise wouldn't be the worst thing ever. If these countries need to grow their international game especially in Scotland and Ireland (as at least Wales have Crusaders) this could be a good stepping stone to growth. 

Celtic franchises could inject some energy into the game based out of Cardiff Arms Park, The Hive in Edinburgh and somewhere in Dublin. Some good weekends away. 

I'll wait for the comments! 

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When a new club comes in and has some success the crowds come, but as soon as they get to a level where they are getting beat on a regular basis the crowds dwindle. That's what's happened to most of them since Fulham.

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